Monday, April 16, 2012

Led Zeppelin Sucks and are Severely Overrated



This will probably be the most loathed entry in my entire blog, probably even more than suggesting Casey Anthony should rape Trayvon Martins corpse while Zimmerman masturbates whilst sobbing, but it has to happen. While reading this article, play the above cover of Stairway to Heaven, as performed by Frank Zappa. Not only will it calm your fiery RAGE down a few levels (this rage goes to 11) but it also illustrates what Zeppelin would sound like if a true genius was at the helm.

I. HATE. Led Zeppelin.

Learn how to sing, you asshole.
 
I'd say Led Zeppelin are, by far, the most overrated band in the history of music. I feel this title is undisputed, and the only band to come close to getting as undeservedly exalted as them would be Nirvana. And although Zeppelin are miles ahead of Nirvana in terms of, well, everything, people don't consider Nirvana the most talented group of musicians of all-time. They just get credit for starting grunge. And killing hair metal. (Those bastards!)

Led Zeppelin is arguably the most celebrated rock band in history. They have millions of die-hard fans, a ridiculous legacy, the mystery and aura that goes along with the early death of a member/refusal of a legitimate reunion...But to people who's ears aren't stuffed to the brain with Jimmy Page and Robert Plants figurative cocks, they aren't all they're cracked out to be. It's obvious when comparing them to their peers they're a bit...out of their league. 
 
  Let's just say, that in the academy of classic rock, Zeppelin
                         rode the short-bus to school.
 
Deep Purple make Led Zeppelin sound like Nickelback. Purple could cover ANY Zep tune live and bring it to another level. Zep would stumble around Purps intricate song-structures in a heroin-induced daze, confused the songs have more than 2 riffs in them. If Zep tried to tackle some Tull, Yes, or Gentle Giant? Fugettabout it, their heads would explode at musical dynamics they didn't even knew existed.

A-Z BANDS BETTER THAN ZEPPELIN
Alice Cooper
Black Sabbath
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Deep Purple
Edgar Winter Group
Foreigner
Grateful Dead
Heaven and Hell
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Meat Loaf
Neil Young
Ozric Tentacles
Pink Floyd
Queen
Rainbow
Savatage
The Who
Uriah Heep
Van Halen
War
X-Japan
Yes
Zappa Plays Zappa


     Cut me a break on that last one, "Zappa Plays Zappa" IS better than Zeppelin. Plus, ZZ Top is a lot harder to sell than Zappa Plays Zappa, and I'm trying to prove a point here, fuckers. I could do this list about 2 or 3 more times, but "Z" and "X" are gonna prove to be tricky. Maybe a "100 Bands Better Than Zeppelin" list next? That would actually be easier.

And now, before you sacrifice me and spill my guts on your Led Zeppelin alters, I offer you rabid fans this peace pipe...


A-Z BANDS/RAPPERS SHITTIER THAN ZEPPELIN
AFI
Backstreet Boys
Coldplay
Def Leppard
Evanescence
Foo Fighters
Girl Talk
Hinder
ICP
Jay Z
KoRn
Lil' Wayne
My Chemical Romance
Nirvana
Obie Trice
Poison
Queen Latifah (of the Stone Age)
Radiohead
Shinedown
Tila Tequila
U2
Vanilla Ice
White Stripes
Xzibit
Yellowcard
Zebrahead


There, we square, fuckers?

Ya know what I really don't understand, is why you Zeppelin fans get so unbelievably pissed someone trashes your band, as if suggesting this band sucks somehow diminishes your credibility. You literally HATE anyone who doesn't love your precious little Wed Zepwin. You are almost as elite as the Grateful Dead cult, yet you are so much angrier. Hell, I enjoyed my time in the Grateful Dead cult thoroughly, and return somewhat frequently. (I also love the Grateful Dead for their unique take on music.)

I'm serious when I say this; you can literally watch any respect you had from a Zeppelin fan quickly drain from their consciousness the second you admit you're not a die-hard fan of the band.
 
Why the fuck is not liking Zeppelin something you would have to ADMIT to? It's a fucking personal preference and opinion. I BRAG to people I enjoy the song "Kiss From a Rose" by Seal, why should I feel ashamed simply because I don't like a band who gets their egos jacked off constantly by 99 out of 100 music fans and 88.8 out of 89 music critics?
 
I don't attack people for hating on the entire 80's metal genre, saying bands like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are equivalent to Poison. Listen, I'm sorry your brains can't comprehend the musical genius of Savatage, and I pity the fact you'd rather bathe in mediocrity and shitty grunge music or soulless pop drivel, but I'm not gonna attack your right to bathe in that shitty, grungy, bland as shit mediocrity.

Why the fuck does MY opinion matter, any way? I'm just ONE musician, one complete nobody that rants on a comedy blog no one laughs at and releases free music, fairly regularly, that no one listens to. (It would make peoples brains explode, so they're dodging a musical bullet by ignoring my shit.) Who gives a fuck that I don't like Led Zeppelin?
 
FUCK YOU for personally attacking me for stating an opinion, you fucking shitheads, I didn't even bring you up! This is between ME and LED ZEPPELIN. STAND DOWN! Why are you defending them so vehemently, anyway? Did you fuck Robert Plant backstage at one of his shitty solo shows? Are you a distant relative of the late, great, John Bonham? Do you feel guilty for selling bootleg "Lead Zeppelin" shirts back in the early 70's at one of their gigs, and are trying to realign your moral compass? (Don't worry, they "bootlegged" a huge chunk of their music, stole tons of their shit....they even stole their band name.) Oh, it's just, my opinion is different than yours, you say? Well shut the fuck up, then. Drown me out with some Led Zeppelin. Or better yet, drown yourself.

     Seriously, anyone who's still with me, go say you hate Zeppelin in a crowded area, yell it at the top of your lungs, and watch all the reactions you elicit. People will look at you like you just raped their children after covering your cock (or strap on dildo, for you ladies out there) with cyanide and anthrax and wrapped it with barbed wire or something.
 
When did Led Zeppelin hate start generating a level of disgust reserved for things like rape, pedophilia, and curb stomping puppies?

UPDATE: June 4th, 2013

It's been over a year, and since this article is still getting so much love....just look at the comments.....I thought I'd update to inform everyone THIS ARTICLE is the very first result when you search "Led Zeppelin sucks" on google. Being the #1 result when you search "Led Zeppelin Sucks" on Google makes me more proud than the 38 minute song I composed and recorded earlier this year.  

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    1. Yes, that's how I feel when a Led Zep song comes on a "classic rock" radio station.

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  2. I know, I have the same reaction whenever I listen to Zeppelin. I feel your pain

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  3. Love the list of bands better than L.Z.

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  4. I'm sure you're a Beatles lover. Which destroys any credibility you may have had.

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  5. Led Zeppelin stole so much music they changed the term "Plagiarized" to "Pageiarized"

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    1. The person that made the most amount of sense on here is a 15 year old. To say that Led Zeppelin is the most overrated band ever, is like saying Babe Ruth is the most overrated baseball player other. He did things in his time that are unheard of. To be honest reading the blog it sounded like you were on the losing end of something, because the fact remains that Zep is better then Purple you take it to heart... Dont give me this non sense about how other bands can play their music better then them, so that makes those bands better.. Robert Plant is overrated, alright very. But to say Jimmy Page is, i mean really, his peers such as Clapton, Townsend, and others dont really seem to think so. All bands music tends to sound the same, deep purple was and still is awesome. But to say they are hands down better, for fucks sake you had Meatloaf, Foreigner, and Rainbow listed as better. I mean i along with millions of others dont see it. The popular vote is not always right, but in this case have to side with the majority. Now if you want to blame radio for blaring the same 10 zeppelin songs for the last 50 years i understand, but to me Pink Floyd and Zep are in a league of their own. I understand opinions are like belly buttons everyone has one, fine, you dont have to like them, but to try and dismantle the excellence of Zep its impossible.. Which then begs the question, what the fuck is the point of all this?

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    2. Led Zeppelin is literally the most overrated band of all-time. Their fans are indoctrinated, mindless zombies who can't even figure out what they like so much about the band. Their music is shallow, repetitive, and lacks the musical dynamics most other bands of that era had in spades. Not only that, but again, they blatantly plagiarized many other songs and artists and took full credit for the composition of these stolen materials. You didn't give me a single reason why Zeppelin are the greatest band, other than you have millions of people agreeing with you. Why not try and rebuttal what I'm saying instead of just say "You're in the minority, you're wrong!"

      I swear to god, Jimmy Page must have sucked Aleister Crowleys dick so hard, just to learn the secrets of audio mind control, because the fame and notoriety this ensemble get is downright offensive. Just look at the responses to this article. People are so angry I slighted Zeppelin. People literally get OFFENDED when you say you don't like this overrated band, and I'm sick of it. They aren't even an 18th as good as people claim, and I'm sick of people rushing to their defense. Every other classic rock band played more coherently than this overrated blimp.

      Zeppelin had no idea how to properly utilize musical dynamics. The transitions in their songs are sloppy as hell. Half the time the "BIG MOMENT" in a Zeppelin song is some tired refrain that only features one instrument as everyone else drops out. They sounded like 4 people playing different songs that just happened to be on key. Jimmy Pages riffs sound off-time whenever he isn't playing an acoustic guitar. Robert Plant not only sounds off-key, but like a manish-woman having an orgasm.

      Led Zeppelin was 1/2 a good band; John Bonham was impressive on the drums, and John Paul Jones was an excellent bassist. But Jimmy Page sounds like a drunken 12 year old with broken hands, and Robert Plant has the most annoying vocals in 'classic rock.' This band does NOT deserve all the credit they get.

      I am not arguing with their influence, hundreds of bands were influenced by them. But what I am saying, is maybe hundreds of bands SHOULDN'T be influenced by the unoriginal Page and Plant. Maybe they should listen to "Made in Japan" to hear how an actual band without an ego and 10,000X the talent sound. Jon Lord alone is miles ahead of the entirety of Led Zeppelin. Fuck Led Zeppelin. They fucking suck, and fuck all the people who have Plant and Pages dicks planted in their ears.

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    3. First, for you or anybody else to say they suck and this is why is ridiculous. Music is not something that can be settled with stats like sports. Everything about music is entirely opinion. So the fact that they appeal to 100's of millions of people is something that you nor anybody else can explain. You are not as talented as them, you are not in a band that has sold countless albums and made more money then you know what to do with. You dont work for Rolling Stone (not that they know what they are talking about either) but it would give you more credibility then posting a fucking OPINION on a blog. I am sick of people being jealous that a band is bigger and considered by so many better then the band they love. John Bonham was impressive on drums? By far and agreed by most PROFESSIONALs, the best drummer ever. EVER. Close second would be Moon. Now for the ripping of Jimmy Page, it is laughable to even think that you could put a list together of more then 3 guitarist that are better, im sure you could, but that wouldnt mean it was true. I will admit, that Hendrix clearly above the rest the best.. Clapton and Beck are probably better also. But just because you come up with a name that most people havent heard (Jon Lord ecspecially his work with Purple) doesnt make you a expert. I am not a expert but what i do know is that its impossible to prove that Led Zeppelin is overrated and not one of the best bands ever. The majority is against you, and you can say often the majority can be wrong. But i will have to say record sales and opinions of experts dictate that Led Zeppelin belongs right where they are, at the top with the likes of Floyd, Beatles and others. And it is kinda offensive when a site like this or some other music snob want to be tries to convince the world that the greatest really isnt the greatest. Babe Ruth isnt the greatest baseball player ever, Hank Aaron has more home runs, really he also has like 4000 more at bats. If Led Zeppelin is monotonous to you then why not just forget about them and listen to what you like. What is there to accomplish by trashing them and trying to tell the majority that your right and they are wrong your simply causing anguish for yourself. Smoke a joint listen to your Deep Purple and LET IT GO..

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    4. Music is absolutely something you can grade. There are innumerable elements that make up music, many of which you can use to judge it by; technicality, originality, virtuosity, dexterity, instrument-by-instrument break down, innovation, band chemistry, live performance, composition, use of musical dynamics, precision, etc. Art is subjective, sure, but most music "plays by the rules" in many ways. In other words, most musicians at least need to know the fundamental basics of music theory to compose songs - it's what differentiates MUSIC from NOISE. Ambient sound design and atonal music are something else entirely.

      I can't say with confidence that I'm a better guitarist than Jimmy Page, simply because it is impossible to judge oneself without a biased opinion. Especially when its putting yourself up against someone whos work you absolutely loath and despise. I will say this, however:

      1) I am more original than Jimmy Page in that I don't intentionally plagiarize other musicians compositions and take credit for them.
      2) Due to recording technologies, I have been able to create a FAR more impressive and vast body of work than Jimmy Page likely had at 24 years old.
      3) From a technical standpoint, my guitar playing is far more dexterous than Jimmy Pages stumbled ramblings. I have more precision and don't mess up every 3rd bar of music.

      I never claimed to be an expert, Scott. I posted an opinion on my blog. A blog, as in an internet journal / platform to vent frustrations. You yourself mentioned the fact this is a mere blog in your tired, butthurt response. Which begs the question - if I have no credibility, why did you even feel the need to respond? Why even bother? It should be clear by the article itself and my responses to other peoples responses my distaste for Led Zeppelin will never be diluted. In fact, Zeppelin faggots like yourself are only strengthening my anti-Zeppelin sentiments. Thanks for fueling the fires of my Zeppelin hatred, Scott! You dick.

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    5. I never asked you to read my ramblings, you chose to do so yourself. I'm not posting these thoughts on Led Zeppelin forums, I'm just stating my opinion on my personal website. You're a fucking douchebag for looking up "Led Zeppelin sucks" on Google, finding this as the first result, and then feeling compelled to come spout your musically uneducated tripe about how I have no right to slander the band you lost your anal virginity to and that music is subjective and that blah blah fucking blah. YOU got so offended over my opinion, you felt it necessary to take the time out of your day to come here and bring it to a personal level - completely on your own accord. So not only do you have shitty taste, considering you actually like Zeppelin, but you are a fucking hypocrite for telling me I'm in the wrong for sharing an opinion and then doing the exact same thing in a far worse fashion. I'm just speaking my mind on a site I never expected anyone would read....you personally came here to attempt to debunk my opinions. My venting was impersonal; your response was an attempt to personally debunk me for having a different opinion than you.

      Yes, John Bonham was IMPRESSIVE. I'll stress again the use of the word IMPRESSIVE. God forbid someone doesn't verbally suck Bonhams dick when giving his playing praise. This is the exact kind of blind, fanboy fueled hype that further intensifies my hatred for the band. Even my COMPLIMENTS are good enough for Zeppelin? It's mind boggling Led Zeppelin are worshiped on such a level that "under-complimenting" them is offensive to their indoctrinated fanbase.

      The amount of guitarists that play circles around Page are innumerable. And the amount of composers who write better music are in the thousands. He was a hack who stole other peoples music. He blatantly lifted passages and took credit for them, some times even from former band mates or bands he had toured with.

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    6. Oh boo hoo, the majority is against me. I guess that's why they feel threatened enough about my opinion they come here to attempt to prove me wrong. To actually think this site is offensive is hilarious. You're offended someone doesn't like Led Zeppelin? That just goes to prove my point even more, it gives me all the more reason to continue hating this band, loathing their fanbase, and calling them overrated hacks every chance I get. YOU DIDN'T EVEN BRING UP JOHN PAUL JONES! Just as I said, he was the most underrated member, and you completely skipped him over. I guess Zeppelin fans are too shallow to realize what makes music good, and too idiotic to realize who the most valuable musician in the band was.

      Led Zeppelin are monotonous to me, and I don't listen to them, I listen to what I like. But jackasses like you exist, trying to shove a firecracker up the anus of anyone who has a negative opinion of the band. There is so much unnecessary hype and praise heaped onto this band, that my rants and negative opinions are NECESSARY for other people who can see past the hype and sheep mindset. You will NEVER see me going on a Zeppelin forum to post this article, because I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong...I'm just trying to express myself. When the parade of douchebags come marching in, like you and the rest of the people who can't separate themselves from the hive mindset, I then DEFEND MY OPINIONS you guys chose to personally attack for no reason.

      What is there to accomplish by trashing the band? It certainly accomplishes more than going to someones personal website to tell them their opinion is wrong, I'll tell you that much. Maybe this is my way of venting so I don't get fired at work for going on a warpath when someone steals my sandwich from the work fridge. Maybe I'm one step away from jumping off a bridge after popping 4 dozen benzodiazepines. Maybe I felt SOMEONE needed to offset the ridiculous, unwarranted praise this band gets with an unbiased opinion from a musician who tries to listen to music with as open a mind as possible. And maybe I was trying to craft a comedic article that lures in tasteless morons like yourself and gets them all worked up about someones opinion.

      I don't need to let anything go. All you fucking jackasses coming here to tell me I'm wrong for thinking differently need to let it go. 99/100 people are brainwashed into thinking this band has anything worth listening to. Leave the 1/100 alone, dickhead.

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    7. Scott aka DickheadMay 15, 2013 at 9:31 PM

      Haha.. Yes. I love it. I respect your opinion, and absolutely love everything you said, it is evident that you are educated. The name calling is a little much, but its okay. I am not much older then you, not that it matters. You are correct, why would i come onto your turf and start up this shit with you. To be honest i searched for something else on google not led zeppelin sucks, lol, and stumbled onto this, and you should be happy that somebody reads it. Isn't that what its for? Somebody to read and then converse about. I mean if you wanted to keep a journal and not have anybody read it you wouldnt have posted it on the internet. Don't get mad, I love to hear others opinions, look at something from someone elses shoes. I agree with you that music can be graded or however it was phrased to an extent, the problem with technicality, originality, virtuosity, dexterity, instrument-by-instrument break down, innovation, band chemistry, live performance, composition, use of musical dynamics, precision, etc is all judged based on opinion.. Composition isn't given a rating of 1-10, one person may feel the band chemistry is better then another persons opinion. Thats my point, its not like baseball where stats and facts are used, you can say well this person has this number of HR's and RBI and all that shit. And to rate a team as a whole, you would look at championships, or wins which would be similar to record sales. I was by no means offended, i would never get offended from someone saying something terrible about a band or anything i like. I understand to each his/her own, i was stating that Zep fans could be offended because you are stating your opinion as if your stating facts. A fact that a limited amount of music was inspired or altered by Led from other. Music can be judged and what not, but you can't say John Bonham is the best, rather a passive impressive. I did not come on here to tell you that you cant have a opinion, simply that i disagree with your opinion and this is why. If you dont want to hear it because you would rather just chat with fellow anti-zep fans, thats cool. And maybe you put this on here thinking that nobody would read it, but you were hoping that people would, otherwise you would have written in a book and stashed it under your bed. So now your gonna freak out when someone differs. I appreciate the fact that you have the balls to go against the grain and post your opinion about zep in such magnitude on the world wide web. My final point is that I'm glad you do this rather then blow up your place of business or jump off a cliff, but your not fooling anybody, i think you are getting exactly what you want when zep fans post the opposite of your opinion. Music is one of, if not the greatest invention on earth, it is what musicians use to express themselves HOWEVER THEY MAY DO IT. Some hate it, some love it. And my first post was to sorta push buttons by exaggerating the positives as you exaggerated what you viewed as negatives. But when you express your opinion and someone reacts in a manner other then what you want, your limiting yourself intellectually. And you seem very intellectual, just angry. But i will be more then welcome to not continue this discussion with you if you so chose, being your site and all. I honestly would like to further discuss anything.

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    8. Here are the choice quotes from your original post that made me respond in such an extravagant fashion.

      "I am not a expert but what i do know is that its impossible to prove that Led Zeppelin is overrated and not one of the best bands ever."

      "I am sick of people being jealous that a band is bigger and considered by so many better then the band they love. John Bonham was impressive on drums? By far and agreed by most PROFESSIONALs, the best drummer ever. EVER"

      "And it is kinda offensive when a site like this or some other music snob want to be tries to convince the world that the greatest really isnt the greatest"

      In all honesty, and to break character briefly, I have fun debating this topic, because the Zeppelin fans are so passionate in their love of the band, and I'm so passionate in my anti-Zeppelin sentiments. A lot of the articles on this blog, I'm looking to be proven wrong, or 'educated' in a way on how people think; why they think the way they do. This blog started as a spin-off of 'social experiments' I was conducting on my personal Facebook.

      I'm disappointed time and time again, however, that most people....instead of debating in an amicable and intelligent fashion....resort to personal insults, as opposed to defending whatever it is I'm attacking with my verbal onslaughts. I'm actually taken aback by the amount of support Zeppelin gets - I really can't comprehend or understand WHY the band gets the praise they do. I've listened to all their music, TRIED to get into them, I tried to FORCE myself to like their music, but I found that every album had maybe 1 or 2 good songs and a bunch of filler. It does offend me, to some extent, that Deep Purple has to live in the shadow of not only Zeppelin, but Sabbath as well, when Purple were in fact a far more progressive, diverse, and experimental band. Hell, Purple JUST released a new album, and no one in the States gives a fuck. But everyone is all jacking off about the new Sabbath with Ozzy. Boggles my mind.

      Having said all that, I realize Zeppelin has influenced so many musicians, and garnered countless amounts of fans. I don't think Jimmy Page flat out sucks, I just think he should stick to playing acoustic, because his electric playing is so sloppy and out of time. I don't think he writes good riffs - his riffs stumble, they sound off time, like his fret board is made of quick sand and his fingers are getting stuck. Robert Plant I think flat out sucks. I hate his voice, I hate his personality. He's a funny bastard on occasion, but he's such an egotistical prick. One of my least favorite singers of all-time. And I respect the hell out of John Bonham and John Paul Jones.

      My main issue with Zeppelin is that they are just mediocre compared to their peers. I don't get why they get credit for what Cream and the Yardbirds (and the countless blues musicians they stole from) did before them. I don't get why they get called the "Greatest Rock Band of All-Time" when literally every band from that era could play circles around them and didn't steal their music. I feel like this Zeppelin phenomenon is a USA thing - I get the impression they aren't quite as exaggerated in other countries as they are here.

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    9. See that, everybody should read this and see how two normal people (im not normal by any means) who have the complete different opinion can have a somewhat intelligent conversation. My whole thing is that the main reason i love music is because its not cut and dry. When i hear songs like Kasmir, Achilles last stand, Rock n Roll, Four Sticks, the Wanton Song, In my time of dying, In the evening, i dont want to make your head explode (haha) but that is what i feel rock n roll is. Jimmy to me has a style that not many have, it really appeals to me, i dont like the clean cut guitar, i like when it sounds like Page, hendrix. Clapton to me is a top 3 gutarist, but very clean cut which isn't a bad thing. I have to admit like you said 9 out 10 people when i mention Zep love them, i have heard people say they think zep is a little overrated. And thats the beauty, its what appeals to each individual. Personally, i think U2, Aerosmith, Lynard Skynard and a few others are overrated. People look at me like I'm crazy.. They are very talented, especially the latter two. When Tyler is screaming like a girl (mostly after the first two albums).. Just not my cup of tea. They don't do it for me as you would say, now i have never delved into Deep Purple like i have with Zep, Floyd, Stones, and Beatles. I prefer classic rock to any other type. I love sabbath, but love Metallica more (from Kill'em All to Black Album). We do agree on Plant, if i had to place him in a percentile it would be about 65%, meaning hes better then average, but not epic, my personal favorite lead singer is Eric Burdon from the Animals. Or maybe Fogerty, I dont know, changes week to week.

      As far as the one quote, your rant kind of did sound like you were upset because your band was slighted. And again, i knew what i was typing, I wrote that to get a reaction. It seemed like you were trying to take on the music industry because Deep Purple doesn't get the recognition it deserves, and a great band like Zep probably got or gets a little to much. Sadly i am gonna admit this to you, fuck, i have been thinking about this shit for 3 days now trying to figure it out in my head. I have listened to albums from Zep and comparing them to The Who (i love, but something about them that is to.. boring) Pink Floyd who is probably my favorite band ever, mostly because they do things and make music i have just never heard anything like. And now i will ask you for 5 epic songs from Deep Purple besides Smoke on the water, Soldier of Fortune, and Child in Time. Everybody i have discussed this with, basically says, "Why do you give a shit what someone you dont even know has to say about Led Zeppelin", and honestly, I don't know. Just consumed with the fact that i have never met or heard someone hate Zep so much. By the way Cream and Yardbirds are stellar.

      I knew you weren't the asshole your rants farther up on the page indicated, I could tell by your english and the first response you sent me (minus the name calling) that you were pretty civil and intelligent. But give me some songs from Purple that people don't hear on the radio. You really don't like The Wanton Song? Or Kashmir? Immigrant Song? Hahahaha.. Sorry.

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    10. Yea, the intensity of the rant is satire, but I still think its bullshit Zeppelin are put on such a lofty pedestal. Like, I consider it factually incorrect to hold them in such high regard, given how much more technically proficient their peers were. Their music to me doesn't move around enough - it kind of stays in the same spot for so long without evolving. And when they finally do try to take the song somewhere else, half the time they do like acapella vocal solos or random, guitar solos without anyone else doing anything...it all sounds so jumbled and forced, like the band don't have the chemistry to play fluid and organically. The chemistry almost feels counterfeit to me, which most people would think sounds insane. But I feel that way because they lack the fluidity I find in my favorite types of music, namely progressive rock, heavy metal, (across all sub-genres), jam bands (across all jam sub-genres) and film scores.

      Here's a list of 10 highly diversified Deep Purple tracks. They literally introduced all the elements into rock and metal that I am drawn to, such as speed, classical influence, and mythical 'ethnic' scales such as the phrygian:

      April (Released in 1969, pre-Sabbath and pre-Zeppelin. Monumental track)
      Fireball (Released in 1972, this is arguably the beginnings of speed / thrash metal.)
      Lazy
      Knockin' at your Back Door
      Gypsy's Kiss
      Hey Cisco
      Rosas Cantina
      Strangeways
      Gettin' Tighter
      Holy Man

      There's so many more A+ songs from this band. Here's another 10:

      Uncommon Man (RELEASED LAST WEEK! Now What?! is an amazing album. Sounds like a band from 1972 transported to the future time of 2013)
      Body Line (Also from the new album)
      Vincent Price (Also from the new album...you should probably check out the entire thing on Youtube)
      Son of Alerik
      Dead or Alive
      Mad Dog
      Wicked Ways
      I've Got Your Number
      Burn
      Walk On

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    11. Alright so I am gonna be 100% honest, I am not gonna give me opinion based on the fact that you hate Led Zeppelin. I am listening to each song and then typing what I think. Nothing I say is to diss or piss you off, I swear.
      April- It was okay, again my taste seems to be little different. It reminds me of a slower Santana or Animals song. I am very drawn to the slap you in the face and keep it going the whole song type music. Hence the Kill them all reference earlier.
      Fireball- Very nice. The keyboard was done exceptionally well (not a big fan normally). Speed was awesome, and the tambourine at the end was a great touch.
      Lazy- Have heard this song many of times, guitar play was solid. Harmonica makes the song in my OPINION, haha. I wont capitalize it anymore.
      Knocking at your back door- Only 2 min in, not really liking it. Has a 80's hair band feel. And again there is nothing wrong with that genre, not my favorite at all.
      Gypsys Kiss- Sorta the same feel, the drums for 90% of the song are the same. Which doesnt make it bad, but all i could focus on was that ba-dump ba-dump. Guitar solo part was serious.
      Hey cisco- Again the drums almost sound the same as Gypsys Kiss, but i am impressed with guitar play.
      Rosas Cantina- I like this alot better then the previous two, harmonica is great and drums much more diverse. Guitar play again is good. Harmonica steals the show tho. Favorite so far.
      Strangeways- Would love this song if there were no lyrics. Again dont care for the words or voice. But definitely a good tune.
      Getting tighter- Epic song, the edge seems to be there for sure. Guitar play is stellar, has that feel that i like. Got some funk to it, always a plus.
      Holy Man- It rocks for cross between a ballad and not-ballad. But kind of dull for me.
      Uncommon Man- Not to bad for being released a couple weeks ago. Kind of keyboardish for my taste.

      Overall I am gonna say this, and again the whole point of this is to view opinions right? I guess negatives first: They just don't seem to have that something that grabs me and keeps me sucked in. Almost a generic feel on some songs. Some of the songs I'm guessing were from later albums and had the 80's influence to them, which I can't explain why, I have never liked. Sounds like i heard a couple different lead singers, the one was okay didnt care for the other. I was talking to my brother, bigger music fan then me, has well over 300 rock CD's. Deep Purple is in his top 10, but has to agree that they are not better then Zep, Floyd, Who, Hendrix, Stones, Sabbath..
      For the positives, which will not pain me to much to say. The guitar play is undeniably epic, hands down really good. Drums at times were great. I am drawn to the stuff that came from the late 60's and early to mid 70's. They moved up on my list cause the talent is undeniable. I did this for a reason, I am a very open minded person as far as giving pretty much anything a chance, 10 years ago I heard House of the rising sun, never knew The Animals had another song, listen to their catalog and they are one of my many many many favorite bands. The rest of the songs I am gonna get to. Because you don't like Zep doesn't mean I think you don't know what your talking about, I just can't stress my point of music affects everybody in different ways. I get the weirdest looks when I tell people I don't like Aerosmith(mostly). Feel free to critique.

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    12. I am shocked that you are speechless.. Haha. Has this ever happened before?

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    13. Not speechless. It's more just I have actual pressing issues in real life that take precedence over internet squabbles.

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    14. By how filled this site is, doesn't appear so.. Good luck with the "pressing issues". Hope it's not saving lives. I think i will say a prayer for Zep fans tonight, in case your a doctor or nurse.






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    15. As a matter of fact a good friend of mine just died. So you can go ride Zeppelins dick somewhere else, because there is no where else for this conversation to go. I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you asked for recommendations, and gave you a good chunk of music to check out. It wasn't your cup of tea, so what now? What do you expect me to do, debunk your opinions track by track? Again, go waste your time riding Zeppelins dick somewhere else.

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    16. Well i would say it was a pleasure, but I'm not much for lying. I knew it was only a matter of time before you reverted back to the name calling and such. Your problem is that you think your somebody, "I gave you the benefit of the doubt" really? You can think or feel whatever you like about Zep, thats what music is, but when you try to back opinion up with shit that you make sound like facts when they aren't, that's why you take so much heat. Nobody gives a shit that you don't like Zep, i guarantee most of these "Zep Bloggers" are posting more cause of your attitude. WE all know Zep is better then purple. But hey, thanks for the conversation. Sorry to hear about your friend. Good luck with life.

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    17. You're being a condescending (and illiterate) faggot so yes, the name-calling did re-ignite, considering you decided to avoid discussing things amicably, instead intentionally trying to push my buttons with your pussy, passive aggressive jabs.

      "I am shocked that you are speechless.. Haha. Has this ever happened before?"
      "Nothing I say is to diss or piss you off, I swear."
      "By how filled this site is, doesn't appear so.. Good luck with the "pressing issues". Hope it's not saving lives. I think i will say a prayer for Zep fans tonight, in case your a doctor or nurse."

      The conversation was over. There was no need to continue. But you keep attempting to antagonize me. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU DISLIKE MY RECOMMENDATIONS. I'm not gonna critique your critiques, that's fucking stupid. But apparently that's the kind of bullshit all these butthurt Zeppelin fans (yourself included) get into....critiquing other peoples critiques.

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    18. Not sure how I'm illiterate in your eyes, and I never said I didn't like your recommendations. As a matter of FACT I enjoyed them more then I thought. "I'm not gonna critique your critiques, that's fucking stupid. But apparently that's the kind of bullshit all these butthurt Zeppelin fans (yourself included) get into....critiquing other peoples critiques." Goodness, where to start? I guess with the use of butthurt, which when used correctly I am not offended or insulted. So when US zep fans are insulted or offended we get into critiquing other peoples critiques. And I said "nothing i say is to diss or piss you off, i swear" when i was listening to the songs you recommended. Its apparent that i have said things before and after the critiquing. I am a faggot? Nothing i have said was gay. I love the fact that you use words like amicably, and say a million words when you only need a few. Because you use big words and stretch out your arguments with dramatics does not make you smart or literate. And by the tone of your responses, its you in fact that is "butthurt". My parting shot is Led Zeppelin may have been lazy or half ass and they were still better then Deep purple.

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    19. Oh and yes I before and after the recommendations I did say things to get under your skin or get a reaction from you. Kind of the same thing you were doing on this website and same response you were hoping for by starting this blog. Please lie and say you weren't, only reassures me that I'm right. So were kind of the same person. Except you like to use big words and sound pretentious, which does not make you more intellectual then myself or others. But I enjoy a good argument and the trading of wits. Like I said I am sorry to hear about your friend and good luck in life.

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    20. I don't care what you think. At all. I don't care if you're trying to "get under my skin," which I pointed out in my last response, and numerous times before that. And the fact you're trying to "get under my skin" like it will ever work is the reason I called you a faggot. Faggot isn't always an anti-gay slur, bi the way. (Catch the pun?....in your anus?) It's a word of spite and malice that attacks the character, not the sexuality. I mean, the music of Judas Priest and Queen both pee all over Zeppelins childish, special education, plagiarized tripe, and despite their sexual orientation Freddy Mercury and Rob Halford certainly aren't faggots by any stretch of the imagination.(...or anus.)

      You prove the exact point I'm making on this very article I wrote over a year ago EVERY time you respond. The point basically being that it is absurd when people in real life have cared that I dislike Led Zeppelin enough to bring it to a personal level. It is absurd this bands hype give their fans the idea they are somehow above being disliked, or the idea that they must now personally attack and attempt to debunk another persons opinions. Which is exactly what you did when you started commenting, and continued to do even after I broke character to level with you. But you keep attempting to antagonize me, and then try to act like I didn't realize you've just been trolling the entire time.

      "Except you like to use big words and sound pretentious, which does not make you more intellectual then myself or others."

      You must be one of those FAGGOTS that say things like "Stop trying to sound smart." Stop trying to sound smart, you say? As opposed to what, sounding like a fucking idiot like yourself? I don't get why everyone gets the impression that anyone utilizing a diverse vocabulary is pretentious. It's like the only big word those people know is pretentious, so in an attempt to sound pretentious themselves they then use the word pretentious. Of course someone writing a satire blog that's influenced by people like Bill Hicks, Doug Stanhope, Maddox, Larry David, Trey Parker and Matt Stone is going to come across pretentious when they rant about something.

      On the flip side, I think its safe to assume someone IS a fucking jackass when they can't even differentiate "then" and "than."

      So yes, I do enjoy some grammatical gymnastics, that's called being a WRITER. And I don't even think highly of my writing. It's full of errors and run on sentences. But at least I can crap out my verbal onslaughts with semi-decent coherency and verbal diversity. What the fuck of it? Anyone who's read more than one article on this site knows my shtick. And that shtick gets very boring to produce whilst in a back-and-forth with some idiot who missed the point of the article in the first place. Now I'm awaiting your giant faggoty response.

      "Oh and yes I knew the hole time what the point of the article was and thats why I was trying to get reaction from you. Because you were doing that with this article with your fancy words thinking your more smarterer then people who dont use those words. But I like having battles of wits good luck in life. For some reason I come off more pretentious than you without even realizing it, especially when I started to call you pretentious despite the fact you broke character several responses ago and for some reason directly explained the simplistic and obvious nature of the satire this site has."

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    21. I have arguments about Zep constantly, I enjoy it. And I am not writing a english paper, and don't care that much, just enough to continue to bother you. And don't say I didn't get under your skin, just reading that last reply its kind of obvious. And the real definition of faggot is a male homosexual, the slang can be used as offensive or disparaging intent. Or bundle of sticks or bundle of other things. I use pretentious and that makes me pretentious, HAHA, since your reverting to kid tactics, I'm rubber and your glue what you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Is that a "faggoty" response for you. Using words like faggoty and waiting for someone to correct you so that you can come up with some bullshit reasoning to tell them as to why your right and they are wrong is PRETENTIOUS. Not saying you need to sound like an idiot, but I know of a million words that most people don't use, and neither do I. No point, then you have to explain them. "influenced by people like Bill Hicks, Doug Stanhope, Maddox, Larry David, Trey Parker and Matt Stone is going to come across pretentious when they rant about something." They accomplished satire by being funny, you do it by sounding like a dick. I get the point of the article, it was just done poorly, in my opinion, kind of like how you think Deep purple is better THAN Zep. And for the record, that brief moment where I wasn't busting your balls (cause I'm faggoty) I took your opinion since it was so strong and listened to a couple deep purple songs I had never heard before. And again since you love the phrase so much when I used it before, not my cup of tea. Anyway, "I do enjoy some grammatical gymnastics" what a fudge packer. I am going to do you a favor, you are right, about everything,I am so sorry to challenge your grammatical prowess, and excellence in satire. I am not sure what it was that I was thinking. I hope you change lives and the world with your writing, everyone should be lucky enough to read your prestigious grammar skills. In a last ditch effort to save myself of the faggoty responses that I have bestowed, you are witty. A little.

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    22. Clearly you aren't writing "a" English paper, you don't even use the correct punctuation at the end of sentences. You posed "Is that a "faggoty" response for you." as if it were a question, yet ended that sentence with a period as opposed to a question mark, making it a statement. Things like that are far more irritating than your shallow attempts to put holes through my "Led Zeppelin sucks" theory, first by trying to argue music is 100% subjective (not like there is this magical set of bendable 'rules' called MUSIC THEORY out there or anything) and then by saying I'm 'pretentious' for having an opinion and choosing to defend it when herds of Zeppelin sheep come stampeding in to tell me I'm wrong for having better taste than them.

      "I am so sorry to challenge your grammatical prowess, and excellence in satire. I am not sure what it was that I was thinking. I hope you change lives and the world with your writing, everyone should be lucky enough to read your prestigious grammar skills"

      Again, you continue to reinforce, with vigorous dedication, your complete lack of comprehension skills. IN THE VERY POST BEFORE YOURS, I pointed out my writing is pretty shitty.

      "And I don't even think highly of my writing. It's full of errors and run on sentences. But at least I can crap out my verbal onslaughts with semi-decent coherency and verbal diversity."

      Scott, you are either the shittiest troll on this article since the 'brothers on Spring break' or you are the product of special education classes and rides on the short bus. (Kind of like Led Zeppelin is the special education of Classic Rock...very fitting.) Maybe a combination of both. With every single one of your responses you seem to both be missing the point I'm making and making up your own versions in your head that are usually the complete opposite of what I was even saying in the first place. You're a fucking retard, bro. Seriously.

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    23. Just for you, since you have nothing to really bitch about i feel i will give a ton by putting together the best english response possible. In the same quote right above you put your writing down and give it praise. You have decent coherency and verbal diversity but shitty writing skills. And you still do not address anything specific like when i called out the word faggoty. You are a double standard everything you say is your tweak on wordplay so that it appears to be facts, your MUSIC THEORY does not rank or rate music it is entirely opinion. I cant get this point thru to you apparently. What FACTS do you have to support that purple is better then Zep? Everything you say that supports purple there is gonna be someone else that will see it differently. So you must know more then them. Really bro? All you have is a onslaught of insults that you use to deflect the fact that you have no real basis for half the shit you say. For instance, "and then by saying I'm 'pretentious' for having an opinion and choosing to defend it when herds of Zeppelin sheep come stampeding in to tell me I'm wrong for having better taste than them." That comment is the definition of pretentious, to the fuckin T. Definition: 1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
      2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show;
      You do both. So you have a problem with people having a problem with you for thinking or saying you have better taste then them. Its not a big deal that your pretentious, just dont deny it. Hope you enjoy the paragraph, please notify me of my errors. I feel the grammar is impressive, even know i have shitty writing skills(see what i did there, i pulled a sweet funky freedom) For someone who is big on satire your not to good at picking up sarcasm. You need to get checked for anger issues also.

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    24. That was your best attempt? Poor show, Scott. That's some terrible English.

      "In the same quote right above you put your writing down and give it praise."

      I stated that I ENJOY 'verbal gymnastics' and 'lyrical word-smithery,' I never praised my ability at them. And then I went on to point out a flaw of my writing style - ridiculous amounts of run-on sentences, which is intended about 50% of the time. That doesn't render my writing incompetent. Nothing is flawless.

      "You have decent coherency and verbal diversity but shitty writing skills."

      That's like Kurt Cobain telling Randy Rhoads he sucks at guitar. Judging from everything you've posted on this blog, you were failing English in school. At least I don't spout the same old generic 'internet argument deflectors' you constantly throw up.

      "And you still do not address anything specific like when i called out the word faggoty."

      I already addressed the word "faggoty" in a prior post. So I'll address you here on why I didn't choose to re-address the use of the word faggoty after already had addressed said inquiry: I'm not going to re-word my initial response because you didn't understand it or completely ignored it the first time.

      "You are a double standard everything you say is your tweak on wordplay so that it appears to be facts"

      Isn't that the whole point of a debate?

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    25. "your MUSIC THEORY does not rank or rate music it is entirely opinion."

      If you're consistently off rhythm and hitting off notes while playing a song, it isn't an OPINION you're playing shitty. If compositions are always lacking originality (in that they are stolen), dynamics (in that the tone of the song shifts between movements), fluidity (in that transitions in songs sound organic and not forced or counterfeit), than it is safe to say you are WORSE than a band that excels in all of these areas.

      "I cant get this point thru to you apparently. What FACTS do you have to support that purple is better then Zep?"

      Re-read the last paragraph I posted.

      "So you must know more then them. Really bro? All you have is a onslaught of insults that you use to deflect the fact that you have no real basis for half the shit you say."

      I've stated the reasons, in great detail, that I find Zeppelin a shallow music experience. You have never responded to a single one of these arguments and instead attempt to shift the focus of the argument into something personal against me. Which is why I went back to insults. Your little passive aggressive FAGGOTRY (not intended as an anti-homo slur) was a method to avoid arguing the points I made on the music. You brought this to a personal level, and intentionally tried to instigate another argument. So I obliged your wishes and reignited the argument, fully aware you have been trying to get under my skin the entire time. You just went about it like a passive aggressive dickhead. EXAMPLES:

      "Nothing I say is to diss or piss you off, I swear."
      "I am shocked that you are speechless.. Haha. Has this ever happened before?"
      "Please lie and say you weren't, only reassures me that I'm right."
      "Well i would say it was a pleasure, but I'm not much for lying."

      All of those little statements come across 10x more pretentious than even my most over-the-top ramblings.

      "So you have a problem with people having a problem with you for thinking or saying you have better taste then them. Its not a big deal that your pretentious, just dont deny it."

      I never denied being pretentious, shithead, I just noted that you sound even worse by trying to tell me something I already know. Like that my writing comes across pretentious. Or that you were trying to get under my skin the whole time. (Big surprise there.)

      " Hope you enjoy the paragraph, please notify me of my errors. "

      There you go again with the passive aggressive pretentiousness you aren't even self-aware of. At least I KNOW I'm a dickhead, you don't even realize you're being one.

      "I feel the grammar is impressive, even know i have shitty writing skills(see what i did there, i pulled a sweet funky freedom)"

      Is that so? I guess if you pulled anything it would be an inbred, intellectually bankrupt, cousin fucking version of Sweet Funky Freedom.

      "For someone who is big on satire your not to good at picking up sarcasm."

      you're* (YOU ARE is spelled you're. YOUR suggests possession. "Have you driven YOUR car today?")

      "You need to get checked for anger issues also."

      No, the reason I don't need to get checked for anger issues is because I vent my frustrations out on this very blog, arguing with illiterate, passive aggressive, faggoty, pretentious jackasses like yourself.

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    26. HAHAHA.. The english was meant to be terrible, thats why there was and still will be run-on sentences and no punctuation and the wrong use of grammar. The grammar mistakes are there for a reason, "Things like that are far more irritating than your shallow attempts to put holes through my "Led Zeppelin sucks" theory" and i realize im being a dickhead. And i get everything you are saying its just awesome that you continue to post. If you never replied that would be that. Whether i use you are or you're or your, you get the point correct? Therefore i irritate you with simple grammar laziness and make a point. And the point for you is not make shit sound like fact, that only works on the other retards on this blog. I have not made anything up, just used what you have said against you. "BEING OFF RHYTHM AND HITTING OFF NOTES" YET MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS AND EXPERTS, AND THE COLLEAGUES OF ZEP ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR GREATNESS, YET YOU KNOW SOMETHING ALL OF THEM DONT, AS IF YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MERIT. That would be called pretentious. You can think what you may about me and call me stupid or whatever clever way you come up with to expand and dramatize calling someone a idiot, but the fact remains that all those quotes that you listed as being pretentious dont quite fit the definition like the shit you say. It was a fun exchange, but kind of getting bored with it. Have a nice life, I'm out.

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    27. You aren't going to get the last word, in that I get an E-mail notification every time you post your retarded ramblings. Sure, go ahead and claim your retardation is by design, as if you're INTENTIONALLY acting like a fucking idiot to annoy me. You have such amazing debate tactics, never responding to a single point I make and instead diverting the aim of your stream of consciousness at my 'pretentiousness' and Zeppelins popularity. I get it, you're intellectually handicapped and incapable of forming coherent sentences, that's perfectly fine! Most people are in the same boat with you. No reason to be ashamed of this, or try to make up excuses like "I'm doing it to piss you off, brah.

      By the way, it's not really "awesome" I continue to post, it's 'awesome' that YOU continue to post, considering you yourself have to come to this site and check up on it to see if I've responded. You've pretty much bookmarked this article and hit refresh on it every day, don't you? You're just giving me more hits and helping keep this article at the top of the Google search. Fucking loser. Here's a hint, Scott: add your e-mail address when you post a comment. That way, you'll get an e-mail notification telling you I've responded! Then you can continue to desperately grasp at the repetitive, generic debate tactics you wore out 8 responses ago.

      "Whether i use you are or you're or your, you get the point correct?"

      Yes, the point being that YOU'RE a fucking idiot with no life who literally checks up on this post EVERY DAY to see if I've responded.

      "Therefore i irritate you with simple grammar laziness and make a point."

      Yep, you're certainly driving that point home....the point that you're a fucking idiot. Call it "Grammar laziness" if you want, but anyone who doesn't now the difference between "then" and "than" and struggles to determine if "your" or "you're" is the correct spelling is a fucking idiot and should be sterilized for the good of the Nation. It's no wonder you like Led Zeppelin. Idiotic, shallow music for idiotic people.

      "And the point for you is not make shit sound like fact, that only works on the other retards on this blog. I have not made anything up, just used what you have said against you."

      You've used what I said AGAINST YOURSELF, only further digging yourself a deep grave representative of your shallow intellect. (Get it? A deep grave to bury your shallow intellect in? No? Nothing? How about.....a deep grave to bury YOU'RE shallow intellect in? Better?)

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    28. "YET MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS AND EXPERTS, AND THE COLLEAGUES OF ZEP ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR GREATNESS, YET YOU KNOW SOMETHING ALL OF THEM DONT, AS IF YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF MERIT."

      So if millions of millions "and experts," plus the colleagues of Zep acknowledge their greatness, why does my opinion....one that has no merit, according to you....necessitate you to leave daily responses? Why does your web-browser have this page treated with bookmarked-surveillance if my opinion has no merit? You must have absolutely no life to come back here, time and again, and continue arguing with someone about their unpopular opinion.

      Granted, if you do a Google search for "Led Zeppelin sucks," THIS article is the first result, but that doesn't really necessitate your constant refreshing and horrible responses that ignore every single point I've made. You're only ensuring the longevity of this articles punctuality on Google, while doing nothing to prove me wrong.

      "That would be called pretentious."

      I'd rather be pretentious than a fucking idiot like yourself. You can only use a word so many times until it loses it's luster and meaning. That's why I utilize my 'diverse vocabulary,' so I don't come across as a one-insult asshole like yourself.

      See, I was actually attempting to have a discussion at first. You, on the other hand, have ONE valid argument to defend Led Zeppelin. The one valid argument you have being they have tons of support from music critics and other bands and music artists. But that just supports my little "Indoctrination Theory," in that if a property becomes so wildly popular, popular enough to garner nearly unanimous praise, it's considered socially awkward to badmouth said property in any way, shape or form, no matter how much truth is imparted in said badmouthing. That is the level Zeppelin are at - they're so overrated it's socially unacceptable to point out their (many, many) flaws. Which is why articles like this NEED to exist - it's like holding the mirror up to the ugly chick when she's run out of makeup so she can see what she really is. Led Zeppelin is the ugly chick. Articles and opinions like this are the mirror. And all the unnecessary hype and praise is the makeup, masking the band for what they truly are - mediocre classic rock treated like royalty for no reason. Let's hear Zeppelin play a full Jethro Tull album without sounding like amateurs.

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    29. Here's a quick bullet list of Led Zeppelins flaws you chose to completely ignore, instead of focusing on them in your childish rebuttals. Great job focusing on personal insults (that never stuck; how many times can you say pretentious in one argument?) as opposed to actually discussing the band and my reasons for saying they suck:

      - Jimmy Page stole many, many songs and riffs. (Without giving credit)
      - Robert Plant stole many, many lyrics. (Without giving credit)
      - The two threw together their stolen material and called it original music. (Without giving credit)
      - Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby....
      - OOOOhhhhh yea, Oooooohhhh yea. Oooohhh yea, ooooohhhh yea. (Shrill wails)
      - Sloppy riffs
      - Shallow compositional song structures. You figure a band that stole the bulk of their work could arrange things in an interesting way - half the work is already done for them. (Writing the music.) Instead Zeppelin songs stumble about the same drunken passages for 8 minutes without any sort of musical dynamics.
      - Transitions in songs are sloppy and hackneyed, with no fluid or organic segue. A lot of the time the band will all stop besides one member, who will do an uninspired solo, and then right back to the riff they were playing 8 minutes. They don't sound like they're all on the same page. Which is why their songs STUMBLE about, instead of flow with fluidity.
      - They only admit they stole riffs or lyrics when they were sued for it...each individual time they were sued for it. That's like athletes using steroids - it's CHEATING.
      - ....baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby....
      - Jimmy Page sounds like he plays guitar with a broken hand. His electric playing is terrible. His acoustic playing is much, much better.
      - The bands Cream and the Yardbirds did the whole "Zeppelin" sound before Zeppelin even formed. They also did it more coherently, and actually used their OWN ORIGINAL COMPOSITIONS. Zeppelin is a poor mans Cream / poor mans Yardbirds. Hell, listen to the Yardbirds with Clapton vs the Yardbirds with Page....Page nearly kills the bands momentum with his sloppy playing.
      - The band is all hype and no substance. Wide as an ocean and shallow as a puddle.
      - To their credit, they did have huge influence.....too bad they were influencing the world using OTHER PEOPLES words and music. Unoriginal bastards.

      Of course, you won't respond to a single one of these. You'll just say I'm being pretentious or how millions of people disagree with me, without ever forming any sort of rational rebuttal.

      "You can think what you may about me and call me stupid or whatever clever way you come up with to expand and dramatize calling someone a idiot,"

      Ok....you're a stupid jackass, flabbergasted assclown, intellectually bankrupt jabroni, retarded retard, faggoty faggot, and AN idiot.

      "but the fact remains that all those quotes that you listed as being pretentious dont quite fit the definition like the shit you say. It was a fun exchange, but kind of getting bored with it. Have a nice life, I'm out."

      No, they don't QUITE fit the definition. See, you FAIL at being pretentious because your stupidity seeps through your responses like an overflowing septic tank. You're simply too dumb to be pretentious. Glad to hear you're getting bored with this rather one-sided affair, considering you gave up attempting to debate days ago and instead have been resorting to personal insults for the majority of the discussion.

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    30. Well Jon or John, not sure which one it would be. I am in a really good mood today, thanks to the my married girlfriend. I will come clean, you do know more then I do when the topic of music is the argument. I don't need to tell you that, but figured you would appreciate hearing it from me. For fucks sake I can't even read music, although spend most of my days when not working, listening to it. The point you made about when society jumps on a bandwagon and everything about that object is overblown and becomes awkward to badmouth. I agree with 100%, I have been there before, mostly with sports or food (my profession). The ugly chick in the mirror is the best explanation ever, hate telling people they are right, but you have earned it. Led Zeppelin isn't the best classic rock band ever, regardless of how many people love them. I love their music, and a lot of other bands also, sometimes can't explain why. I mean seriously, The Animals, Pink Floyd, Stones, Yardbirds(with or without page), Cream, CCR, Dead, UFO, the list would just keep going. I love metal, grunge, even a little trance, depending on how much I smoked that day. Haha.

      My point is simple, I honestly was having a discussion with you and at some point I felt you were making it personal. So rather than continue discussing it which is what you probably wanted, it became more entertaining to say things that I found hysterical. I have never been one to worry about entertaining others, my favorite line I think I used in the whole blog was when you said "Your pretentious for using pretentious" And I dropped the since your going to use kid tactics I'm rubber and your glue whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you. Fucking hysterical.

      More honesty for you, I have never been on a blog where I have posted more than one thing. I didn't even know what trolling was. So sad, I know. And I was searching for something concerning Zep and with one misplaced word, I basically searched the opposite and saw your site with the three main words that almost forced me to click on it "Led Zeppelin Sucks". I have never actually heard that phrase before, been discussions about how they are overrated, but never sucked. And I never expected you to allow me to get the last word, not on your home turf.

      Even more honesty for you bro, not brah. I took a listen to some of your music. And I want to make it clear with everything being said on here, I really have no malicious intent towards you. Don't even know anything about you, besides that you don't like Zep very much or at all, and you play music, and I think your name is Jon or John. The stuff I heard was not bad, especially for someone whom I'm assuming doesn't have a real studio by music business standards. And myself being a Zep fan I highly doubt your aiming for me to be your audience, but its sound like the few compositions I heard, just a ton of things going on. Your guitar play is very nice. I guess what I'm saying is maybe you should render some of your music integrity and dumb it down a little. Don't know if you are interested in making it big or just expressing yourself as a hobby, but you'll like this, maybe take a page out of Led Zeppelin's book and bring it down a notch. There are many more people who need it dumb down, as opposed to those like yourself who maybe understand more about music then others. I get the feeling you understand music like I grasp baseball. Been doing it with a never know to much attitude since I was three. But all in all I do check back on this site at some point in the day. I never took anything you said towards me to personal and never really meant anything I said to you. Freedom to talk shit and humor for the soul.

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    31. Guess we're on the same page then, as debating 'subjective taste' vs. 'music theory' is rather amusing.

      I think one of the main problems with music today is people are writing music for everyone else, but not writing music for themselves. I write music for myself. I write music the way I wish my favorite bands made it themselves. For example, I wrote a song called 'Shallow Green' when I was getting bored waiting for the new Deep Purple album. "Well shit, since its another month until they release their album, I might as well record something that would fit in nicely on the Perfect Strangers album to hold me over."

      Unfortunately, this is lost on most people...we have infinite possibilities afforded to us with the music recording technology of the present. You needed a record deal or a LOT of money to record music back in the 60's and 70's....now you just need a laptop, pirate Fruity Loops, and you got a studio at your house. It takes more than that though, and most are too lazy to pick up instruments and really forge their own signature sound. (Which is why EDM is so popular at the moment - laziness. Dragging samples into a computer program vs. learning an instrument over the course of a decade? Most will lean towards the easier route - dragging and dropping samples into a computer program.)

      I do realize for mainstream success one must 'dilute' their music into something a bit less technical - simplicity is an art all of its own. I try to let the simplicity reign during hooks and melody lines. But I can't see myself 'dumbing' the music down too much further. I'm actually more interested in composing music for films and video games, as far as my solo work goes. I'll dumb down my playing for a project with other people, when I don't need to play every note.

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    32. I forgot to acknowledge the "flabbergasted assclown" reference, that is a nice one. Naturally people now a days would choose the easy route, it's the way of the world now. I mean, I am only 29, but my parents are old school. I grew up having to work for everything and never having anything given to me, except wisdom and knowledge. But the generations after me have and will take the route most traveled (the easy one). Tons of my friends growing up had cars given to them and college paid, it's borderline absurd what children have now. I can't imagine when I was 11 years old having a cell phone and shit. I have always been the type to learn things the hard way, I seem to never forget the lessons. I have actually messed with fruity loops, it's sad when someone like myself can put together a lame trance song in less then 3 days and it sound decent with no prior music ability.

      And it's agreed that music this day in age is almost spread thin on a cd or album. I have noticed that most albums from the 60's I listen to there is maybe a song or two I don't like. And as decades have passed till present, there may be a song or two that I do like. Three good songs on a present day album and the rest is filler, as if artist's now are afraid of running out of music. I have always wanted to learn how to play the guitar and drums, but have no rhythm or ambition to spend years and years mastering it. My sister can play the piano, one day she sat me down to teach me, I felt like she was trying to herd cats. It's just not something that comes naturally to me.

      Do you tour with a band or is it mostly side action for you? A way to make a little extra on the side while pursuing what you love?

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    33. I've played pretty big festivals with decent sized headliners. (Such as Melvin Seals and the Jerry Garcia Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Glitch Mob, EOTO, Everyone Orchestra, Immortal Technique, KRS-One, and many others) I'm trying to find a band to make a living off of it. I wish to one day be a composer by profession, writing music for TV shows and video games and movies, but am debating whether college is worth it or I should just keep making music and sending in demos. College won't do all that much for me (besides put me in debt), but you really need to KNOW people to get into that field.

      While I have self-sustained as a musician, its not easy. Getting paid as a musician is literally harder than learning the instrument in the first place. Bars only pay musicians based on how many people come to the bar, which is absurd. It's not like chefs need to bring their family and friends to the restaurant they work at in order to be paid. Musicians, on the other hand, DO need to drag 30 or more people to a venue to even get a small payment. Most bars / venues don't even cover gas. MEANWHILE, some crappy Top 40 DJ is getting paid a base pay of $100 - $1000 to literally press the play button on fancy equipment and dance like an idiot on stage for 4 hours. Cookie cutter DJs are not only mucking up the electronica scene, they're taking food off the table of actual musicians (and actual DJs, too.)

      The world is all backwards when it comes to artistic expression. Generic stuff is glorified and complex stuff collects rust on the underground. But that's an entirely different issue for another day

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    34. I'm a assistant chef, and I am so happy that I do not have to drag butts to the dining room to get paid. As far as college goes, my chef told me the best way to learn anything is hands on. I learned more in a kitchen then I ever would in a classroom. Very curious as to if that applies to music and the studio? College was never for me, I gave that a try and ended up with debt and getting booted. I chose to drink and party more then actually study.

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    35. What I meant by that..."College won't do all that much for me (besides put me in debt), but you really need to KNOW people to get into that field."....is that college definitely helps out with networking, especially where film-scoring composition is concerned. I personally think hands on is better as well, which is why 12 years of playing instruments and writing music has done infinitely more for my playing and composition skills than 4 years in college could ever do. College would be beneficial in introducing me to people in the business, but it wouldn't sharpen my composition skills all that much.

      College should be wayyy fucking cheaper any way. You would think educating the youth would be on top of our societal "To do list," but it isn't. This is probably because an educated populace isn't what the powers that be want from us....instead they want us indebted and docile. Mindless worker drones are more useful to greedy disaster capitalists than people who can think for themselves and advance society forward. Which is a big reason I consider a college degree to be worth about as much as the ink on the paper.

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    36. There is no doubt you hit the nail on the head, government for sure does not want a ton of educated progressive thinking souls walking around the states. I heard a quote that went "Don't steal, not cause it's bad, but because the government doesn't like competition". Cracked me up, college can be a waste, some professors take it serious and others just put shit on the board or handouts and you basically teach yourself. And it is sad to think that our own government wouldn't want to advance as a whole rather than the rich get richer.

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    37. The people with all the power, funding, and influence to change the course of human history for the better are greedy, materialistic and shallow, and are far too impotent as leaders to realize their monetary gains will never outweigh the well-being of the public. Those assholes literally stifle human advancement....they literally paralyze societal evolution....just to get a few extra million a year they'll never end up enjoying or spending.

      Hating Led Zeppelin is an opinion I have...a very strong opinion. But hatred for the government and greedy disaster capitalists making the world a shittier place by the minute? That's a PASSION. Those fuckers need to wash down a couple dozen boxes of Coricidin Cough and Cold with some antifreeze and do the world a favor.

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    38. I definitely agree, I am not the type to blow some shit up to show the government how I feel, but I am very disgusted by the U.S. Government. They are very short-sighted and shallow. They never really scratch the surface of what needs to be done to and for this country. I enjoy the freedom (even know it's not free) but that's a whole different conversation, I just can not comprehend what it is they are doing. Lewis Black had a stand up and he said something that stuck with me, it's like the Democrats stand up and say I have a shitty idea! Then the Republicans immediately respond with and we can make it even shittier. If they just looked at other countries, they don't have to do exactly what other countries do, but take the things that really work from each major country. I love Germany's global healthcare plan, sure they pay a shit load in taxes, but the economy over there is stellar. I don't know, if I had the answers or even knew what it is I am talking about, I guess I would be making a difference. Instead I just bend over and take the government fucking.

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    39. There is no way around it until the masses awaken. But that has been happening over the past few years. I only started looking into "conspiracy theories" and similar thought processes in like 2007. And in that amount of time the number of people who not only question their government, but do it publicly (on and offline)....that number is growing daily. Occupy Wall Street was a huge step towards making that sort of rhetoric more "mainstream."

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    40. Name a government that ISN'T short-sighted and shallow. Apparently 99% of the people throughout the world that have any power/influence are greedy pieces of shit.

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  6. Your credibility is not destroyed The Beatles wrote some amazing songs. Led Zeppelin are overrated i love what you wrote especially the part about their heads trying to explode if they tried to tackle some songs of other more musically talented bands. Ive said it before and i will say it again the fact is Led Zeppelin were one of the great rock bands of the day. To elevate them to some god like status is and has always been laughable. Claiming Led Zeppelin as the best rock band ever is a slap in the face to other bands who mainly composed their own music.

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    1. Indeed. Even the songs they plagiarized, they didn't exactly execute them in an interesting fashion. Too many Zeppelin songs just repeated the same thing over and over, the same riff 100 times without any variation. They also had a very sloppy sounding signature sound. Everything sounds so stumbled, like their on too much heroin to play their instruments properly. Same thing with Nirvana, incidentally. Eddie Van Halen wasn't joking when he said -

      ""Jimmy Page is an excellent producer. Led Zeppelin and Led Zeppelin II are classics. As a player, he's very good in the studio. I never saw him play well live. He's very sloppy. He plays like he's got a broken hand and he's two years old. But if you put out a good album and play like a two-year-old live. What's the purpose?""

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  7. This is literally one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen online. Mainly because of the bands you posted as being better than Zeppelin.

    Look, I have no problem with people that don't like Led Zeppelin. Most of the people I love and care about don't like Led Zeppelin. But I do have a problem with completely trashing a band based on solely your opinions. I didn't really see any GOOD points towards why Zeppelin "sucks". All you did was use 5th grade insults towards the band, and then you tried to assert that your own shitty taste in music was much better.

    Get a life, you tasteless fuckwad.

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    1. Why should I waste time making "good points" towards why Led Zeppelin are the most overrated band of all-time, exactly? Their music says more about their overall lack of compositional skill than I could ever hope to. It doesn't matter how many times I point out that.....

      ....the band was usually too doped out to perform a worthwhile performance in a live setting. Or that....


      ....they plagiarized a huge chunk of material in the most disrespectful, egotistical fashion possible. (As in, they stole peoples music, took full credit, then literally rained the menstrual blood of a thousand vaginas down on anyone who tried to use a Led Zeppelin song in movies or TV commercials. Oh, I see, it's OK for Zeppelin to literally rip-off three songs in just ONE of their 'compositions,' but it isn't OK for people to use their music to sell Chryslers. Makes sense. Stealing from the theft would be too redundant. Kind of like how every Led Zeppelin song sounds - redundant.) Or that....

      .....Robert Plant is the most abrasive sounding vocalist of all-time. Why Robert Plant is given credit for starting the high-pitched singing when Ian Gillan was doing a far better job with a far bigger range in Deep Purple is beyond me. Literally ALL the credit Led Zeppelin gets as such a mega-influential band should be transferred to Deep Purple, who could literally play circles around them.



      Look, I have no problem with people that like Led Zeppelin. Most of the people I tolerate like Led Zeppelin. But I do have a problem with completely trashing someone based soley on their opinions. I didn't really see any GOOD points towards why Zeppelin "rocks." All you did was use 5th grade comebacks towards me, and then tried to assert that your own shitty, smug response to my opinion was much better.

      Get a death. (I'm not gonna copy the "you tasteless fuckwad" part because people that use the term "fuckwad" are lame on a level worthy of their own entire article. "Fuckwad..." that's almost as terrible as "Fucktard." People who use the terminology "Fuckwad" and "Fucktard" should be sterilized or have their tongues removed or something.)

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    2. How old is this guy? Ur opinion is a moot point... "they play the same rifts and chorus"... yet insist deep purple is better LOL I love the beatles but they do the same thing... listen to hey jude... I agree led zep is over played on the radio but if I hear the 1 deep purple song that plays on the radio, I change the station... and stealing ppls music LOL u must hate shakespear and literally everything else in this world... I assume u have no education and u have never heard the phrase "there is no original text" wana take credit on sumthing? Be the one to make it popular... rock, classic, jazz, rap, fuk even dubstep lol every genre has this issue... if deep purple was claimed the best band of all time im sure no one would call them overrated LOL... I was waiting for u to call out robert plant for never wearing a shirt
      :/ but u didn't... and being trashed for live performances is to be expected... have u ever heard black sabath live??? Lol im 15 and could tell u that haha... but seriously y even bring up live performances of a band from the 60's???
      agreed nirvana is over rated and led zep is over played... seriously tho deep purple lol "wow fucker, u have great taste" im sure u hear that constantly hahahaha lets go ahead and cover what makes a band great... SALES!!! prove me wrong :) u really should have been more sarcastic cuz wen I read this my thought was u wer genuinely dumb... im sorry but wen u say orzic tentacles and rainbow are better bands I have to question ur intelligence... how does it feel to get burned by a 15 yr old fucker?

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    3. Listen, if you're gonna attack my post and brag about being a little 15 year old faggot, remember to turn on spell check so you don't trip over your own logic. I wager this post isn't even real, so beyond these two sentences I'm going to ignore it completely.

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    4. Better 15 year old faggot then 35... u mad bro?
      yeah this post is so fake let me tell ya bout it... oh and grammar LOL bitch plz u have numerous typos... only difference is I don't give a fuk lol... u just mad cuz ur only come back is that im 15 and actually have a point wer as u... do not
      U didn't even attempt to debate me cuz ur afraid to lose to sumone half ur age
      T9 is for pussies

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    5. I wager this post isn't even real, so beyond these two sentences I'm going to ignore it completely.
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    6. sweet funky freedom is a faggot

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  8. I like Led Zeppelin a lot,all the members of the band are very talented,they're not overated in my opinion,they are very good.Led Zeppelin along with Deep Purple and Black Sabbath created the Heavy Metal man,they rock.They have remarkable song like Stairway To Heaven,Kashmir,Achilles Last Stand,Black Dog etc.

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    1. John Paul Jones is easily the most accomplished member of the group, and Bonham was a beast on drums. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant were rather mediocre, overall.

      I don't think Led Zeppelin did much for metal. Everything they were doing either Black Sabbath or Deep Purple were already doing 10 times better.

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  9. So I decided to yell out "I hate Led zeppelin" on campus to day. You won't believe the reactions of people ignoring me, looking up slightly for a moment and then back down to what they were previously doing. I created a riot of people casually walking by me as if nothing happened. I don't know who raped you to the album of House of the Holy. But you shouldn't blame led Zeppelin. Granted there definitely not the best band if all time, because that is hands down the band from the cantina on Nar Shaddaa. But deep purple is a close second :P

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    1. The only type of "rape" perpetuated against me whilst listening to 'House of the Holy' is the raping the band themselves administered to my ear drums. They were technically 'raping my ears' by composing such bland, bloated music with they lazily lifted from other artists compositions.

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    2. Also, despite getting tired of initiating the "grammar Nazi" sequence, I can't pass up the opportunity to point out the absurdity of the very first sentence of your comment

      So I decided to yell out "I hate Led zeppelin" on campus to day

      SO I DECIDED TO YELL OUT "I HATE LED ZEPPELIN" ON CAMPUS TO DAY

      ON CAMPUS TO DAY

      CAMPUS TO DAY

      TO DAY
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      2 DEIGH

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  10. You my friend, are retarded. My entire post was a joke, but you are so far up your own ass, I don't think you caught that. It is spring break, so clearly I made this entire post up. (As a joke) I repeat this was a joke (in case you still don't get it). Also, if you are going to criticise people on their grammar, you should probably work on your run on sentences. Seriously though, I gave you gold.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_EISUstqdl

    Let me paraphrase the point I was making in the previous post

    *clears throat*
    NO ONE GIVES A FUCK

    Word of advice. Continue acting like you are not an idiot by using verbose sentences with poor structure, it suits you. But you don't have to take my word for it, just look at your profile. You are not "A" philanthropist, you contribute nothing to society. You are a drop out who probably still lives with his parents. BIG MAN.

    The only reason I even visited your blog was because me and my little brother were having an arguement about over played crap we hear on the radio. We ran across you blog and decided to troll. (Successfully) who would have thought you have so little of a life you would actually respond o.O

    Now hit replay on that BADASS CANTINA MUSIC!!!!

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    1. "It is spring break, so clearly I made this entire post up."

      Hope you're having fun on your spring break.....leaving comments on peoples blogs....


      "The only reason I even visited your blog was because me and my little brother were having an arguement about over played crap we hear on the radio. We ran across you blog and decided to troll. (Successfully) who would have thought you have so little of a life you would actually respond o.O"

      You don't need to 'rationalize' yourself to me, because I don't give a fuck. You're gonna bitch about my bitching on my blog? Right on, champ, knock yourself out and clear your throat some more.


      "We ran across you blog and decided to troll. (Successfully) who would have thought you have so little of a life you would actually respond o.O"

      How was your trolling 'Successful?' I immediately pointed out you were a troll in my response, you fucking idiot.

      If anything, the article itself is the only instance of successful trolling to be seen here. You and your butt buddy brother literally wasted time out of your lives to not only post separate comments, but then to check back again later to see if I responded. And you say I'm the one with no life? When you're wasting your spring break hitting F5 on my "Led Zeppelin Sucks" article from almost a year ago?

      I get an E-MAIL NOTIFICATION every time someone comments on my blog. Did you get an e-mail notification that I responded? Of course you didn't, because you posted ANONYMOUSLY. So that means you returned to MY SITE, giving me MORE HITS and thus giving me MORE REVENUE, whilst on your spring break. Strong life you got. Go back to sucking your little bros dick and clearing his semen from your throat so you can make pretentious comment on websites you fail to realize are satire. Sounds like the perfect spring break for you, it suits you.

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  11. God Damm Led Zeppelin they seem to bring out the worst in people. They bring out the worst in me aside from a couple songs Led Zeppelin 1 and 2 are essentially one long song about either leaving a woman or a woman leaving them pretty juvenille lyrics. Led Zeppelin III is my favorite album mainly because Plant isnt oversinging or doing those annoying vocal runs and adlibs (way to ruin a fuckin song). Yes Deep Purple were a better band on all levels. Jon Lord holy shit what do you say about him he had the idea to take a Hammond B3 and tap it straight into a marshall stack what an amazing idea and sound. Im not a big fan of screaming in music but if i want to hear it done right i listen to Ian Gillan let loose in Child In Time-1970 (that is how its done). Led Zeppelin wrote some good songs mainly from Zeppelin III-1970 and on. However they stole and covered way too many songs how can i give credit for that. Some people say who cares because they took the songs and made them better. Why are they better because they are heavier??? that is bullshit theft is theft. If someone asked me who the best band is of all time how the hell could i answer that question given the fact that the late 60's and most of the 70's had the best music ever made PERIOD. To shrink that down to one band is beyond absurd i could give you a top 10 but more likely a top 20. I just find a lot of bands more intresting to listen to than Zeppelin one of Zeppelins best songs in their catalogue and this actaully proves they could write something heavy handed with substance is NO QUARTER-1973 the song still would have served better without the vocal effect on Plant's voice it comes across as almost laughable. Still a great song for those who think Zeppelin invented Heavy Blues rock they didnt!!!! Cream did and for those who think Zeppelin invented Heavy Metal they didnt Black Sabbath did!!!! and for those who think they invented Hard Rock they didnt there were more than a handfull of bands that did i dont even hafto name them.People can build Zeppelin up all they want that is fine but the reality is they were a great rock band playing in an era with other great rock bands. A true music lover is the only person that will recognize that.

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    1. Led Zeppelin sound good...when other people play their songs. Led Zeppelin is indescribably underwhelming. I literally think they put people into a trance by repeating musical phrases for 9 full minutes without changing.

      They were always balls deep in the occult (and dolphin pussy), maybe they used their freaky witchcraft to indoctrinate the listeners. Hell, I bet Tool does the same fucking thing. Tricks people into thinking they're good with subliminal mind control techniques.

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  12. haha it could be man it could be so let me ask what is your fav Deep Purple i have three of them i like almost equally

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    1. I can't just pick three. Here's the first songs to come to mind:

      April, Lazy, Strangeways, Anya, Knocking At Your Back Door, Hey Cisco, Gypsy's Kiss, A Twist in the Tale, Solitaire, I've Got Your Number, Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming, Fireball, Anyones Daughter, Holy Man, Hold On, Getting Tighter, Comin' Home, Son of Alerik, First Day Jam, Woman from Tokyo, Fire in the Basement, Wicked Ways, Mad Dog, the Unwritten Law, Dead or Alive, Ramshackle Man...

      There's too much Deep Purple to make a simple list. They constantly changed their style, probably as a result of revolving door of musicians. I will say this, though: for me, every single Mark of Deep Purple was better than Zeppelin. Except maybe Mark VI, if only because Joe Satriani was a fill-in and they never recorded any full albums.

      But Come Taste the Band? I find more worth in that album than Zeppelins discography. Same goes for Slave and Masters - I find more enjoyment from that album than every song in Zeppelins career combined. But Zeppelin don't even come close to touching Mark I, Mark II, Mark III, Mark IV, Mark VII, or Mark VIII.

      It's just undeniable that Deep Purple are far more imaginative composers than Zeppelin, far more accomplished musicians.

      Steve Morse, Tommy Bolin, and Ritchie Blackmore all play circles around Page. I don't even think Page comes close to matching any of them.

      Ian Gillan, David Coverdale, Glenn Hughes, and even Joe Lynn Turner are all far more accomplished vocalists AND lyricists than Robert Plant ever was. Plant shrills and wails like a high school girl in heat, singing tone-deaf variations of other peoples lyrics that he later took credit for.

      Jon Lord single-handedly dismantles Led Zeppelin. And Don Airey is a beast.

      Roger Glover is a groove machine. But I have the utmost respect for John Paul Jones, who was the unspoken genius of Zeppelin.

      Paice > Bonham for me, as well. I just think the diversity of Deep Purples material and Ian Paices being there since the beginning easily eclipses Bonzos ridiculous playing.

      I could easily make an entire new article about why Deep Purple is far more important to the history of rock than Zeppelin, but so many people already hit this article I'll just leave it right here in a comment. Purple piss all over Zeppelin with their weakest material. They are leagues and leagues ahead of Zeppelin.

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  13. I agree my favorite Deep Purple albums are In Rock-1970, Machine Head-1972 and Burn-1975. My favorite Rod Evans songs are Hush,Why Didnt Rosemary and The Painter. In Rock along with Uriah Heeps first album is very important to the evolution of Heavy Metal. In Rock is Deep Purples heaviest album (Living Wreck) is one of my favorites from the album. There is no filler to be found on In Rock and Ian's screams on Child In Time are beyond sick!!!!! Richie's guitar solo on Child In Time moves me more than any of Jimmy Page's stuff. Machine Head is also great not quite as raw as In Rock. Burn is amazing as well Glenn Hughes and David Coverdale are great singers and Richie's opening riff on Sail Away is fuckin dirty i love it. Stormbringer has some great songs the title track,Holy Man and Highball Shooter. As far as drumming goes Ian Paice is more exciting to listen to than John Bonham i agree. Hey did you ever listen to the band Rod Evans started after getting the boot from Purple they were called Captain Beyond. Also did you listen to the band Nick Simper started called Warhorse. What do you say about Jon Lord one of the best Hammond players ever.

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    1. I haven't heard Captain Beyond or much of Warhorse. All of Rainbows output was amazing, IMO (including when they went Arena Rock - I even love the track "Since You've Been Gone," great corny little number). Whitesnake is a much more skilled band than they get credited for, as well. They did have Jon Lord on the keys for a little while, there...the master of the Hammond. Whitesnake commonly get written off as a hair metal band but they were more hard rock blues than anything. Gillans solo work is quite impressive too. And Glenn Hughes solo stuff is also very impressive. Steve Morse has a storied past as well. And Don Airey is no slouch, what with being Jon Lords protege and all. Joe Lynn Turner also has a storied career, and love it or hate it, Blackmores Night is unique and rather impressive, despite being somewhat campy. (And Candace Night is hot. Good for you, Ritchie!)

      I'd love to hear a Ian Anderson / Ritchie Blackmore album. THAT would be something.

      Deep Purple has a huge family tree of related bands. And nearly all of them had some impressive music as well. Rainbow would definitely be my favorite, tied with Jon Lord solo output. Gotta love Roger Glovers work as well. The band is just immense, all around. Zeppelin doesn't even come close. I leave you with this, a link to a Jon Lord album on Youtube. RIP

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMI-R8Ka0c

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  14. The first time i heard Glenn Hughes was when i picked up the Burn Cassette. The first time i really took note of Glenn Hughes was whe i discovered the band Trapeze the album was Medusa what a kick ass hard rock album that is. I have some Whitesnake songs from the late 70's i really like and No they werent a hair band back then at all. Blindman is my favorite song i just saw Deep Purple a year ago Feb in Victoria they were fantastic. I was waiting for Child In Time but i wonder if Ian cant get the voice up there like he used to (totally understandable). You should check out the first Warhorse album (vocals are a acquired taste) they were heavy like purple used a hammond b3 and of course Nicky Simper on bass. Captain Beyond were more psych rock and good as well. Jon Lord released a live Blues Rock album about two years ago with ex Keef Hartley Band singer Miller Anderson have you heard that????. Zeppelin and other bands get crammed down our throats leading us to think they are gods gift to music what bullshit. They are two types of music fans out there the generic casuall fan who listens to the radio and owns a few cd's. Then there is the other type like me and from the sounds of it you who plays out all the mainstream stuff and then starts to search and dig to listen to everything that came out from that era and bands from other countries. Germany had some excellent bands in the Classic Rock era so did Japan

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    1. Zeppelin are the Nirvana of the 70s. And they haven't done all that much, collectively, since Bonham died. The studio albums were not only jammed to the tits with plagiarized lyrics and guitar riffs, but they were rather abysmal live. While I wasn't personally in attendance at a Zeppelin show, tripping balls on a 10-strip, I've seen enough footage to make an educated guess. According to all the bootlegs I've listened to and all the videos I've seen of them live, it was always ridiculous how sloppy, disjointed, and bland they sounded live. It's like they were all too high on heroin to play a decent setlist. It's not like heroin stopped Jerry Garcia from raging live. (Zeppelin kind of remind me of a sloppy Aerosmith attempting to jam out like the Grateful Dead, but being to high on heroin to even come close.)

      I'll have to check out Captain Beyond. I've been listening to Deep Purple for the past few days, new album drops next month. I was a big fan of Purpendicular, Bananas, and Rapture of the Deep, so I have high hopes they'll deliver once again.

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  15. You must be out of your damn mind to suggest that Nirvana is shittier than Led Zeppelin... I honestly do not know how to react to this. Led Zeppelin is simply a safe little Classic Rock band with very little noticeable experimentation (maybe for their time they were inventive/novel/creative, but that was the past. They are pretty generic today). Nirvana, on the other hand, was extremely inventive and created sounds which were and still are very novel and untouchable. Have you even listened to Bleach and/or forgotten Nirvana tracks which are not included in any of their albums? I would suggest you check out "Curmudgeon", "Pen Cap Chew", "Oh The Guilt", and "Blandest". Also, OLD AFI (Very Proud of Ya, Answer That and Stay Fashionable) is fucking amazing as well and I personally believe OLD AFI to be way better than any dusty LZ track. OLD AFI is fucking raw and truly punk-rock. Finally, you listed the White Stripes as being shittier than LZ... Need I even attempt to provide a demonstration for this erroneous gesture?

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    1. Let the adults talk about Deep Purple, Ronald. AFI, Nirvana and White Stripes might as well be the sound of an anus belching semen bubbles when compared to Deep Purple.

      But seriously, I definitely equate Nirvana to the Led Zeppelin of the 90's, in that both bands had ENORMOUS influence on many acts that followed; they both helped ruin music in their own specific ways. Led Zeppelin opened the floodgates for plagiarism, sloppiness...largely due to their extravagant indulgence in heroin....and Nirvana opened the floodgates for even sloppier playing and even more heroin. Nickelback, Puddle of Mudd, Hinder, Seether...they're all basically grunge bands that record in million dollar recording studios. 99% of grunge is fucking horrible, and Nirvana has to have one of the blandest, most grating sounds I've ever heard. Dave Grohls best work is easily with Tenacious D, who are miles ahead of your AFI, White Stripes, and Nirvana. See AFI, Nirvana and the White Stripes all lack a particular cinematic charm, a certain theatrical charisma, because their genres intentionally disregard these qualities.

      That is, after all, what metal bands, progressive rock bands, and even most classic rock acts were all about....theatrics, cinematic soundscapes, essentially taking the listener on a journey. I've noticed a big reason I can't tolerate grunge is because how it simultaneously strips both the lyrics and music of any charisma or theatrics. Grunge is like the doldrums of art - progressive rock is like lucid dreaming.

      Grunge....I could just never get into it. It's so bland and lifeless. If you've heard one Alice in Chains song, you've heard them all. Now I can somewhat see the appeal of Grunge, and I liken it to musical heroin. Not my thing, never will be. It's far too underwhelming in its execution, composition, and lyrics to ever catch my interest. Prog Rock, Metal, and Classic Rock on the other hand...these genres are all more like Musical Cocaine. Wild, unpredictable, loose-canon, and over-the-top. Very much prefer my music to be of the cheesy cocaine category than of the corny heroin category, but to each their own.

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  16. I'm not going to completely attack this post mainly because: A. Everyone's entitles to their opinion & B. This article/post/whatever issue.

    In the article/post/whatever's defense, I understand why Led Zeppelin can be hate-worthy for some people. They are played a lot and many Zeppelin hardcore fans overstate the band members. They are definitely played often on the radio, but that's also because-whether you like it or not-they DID definitely take over the 70s in America and England.

    Now, on the offensive (slightly). I happen to be a Led Zeppelin fan. Not, mind you, a fanboy/fangirl who drools over every aspect of the band. Just a fan of their music. I also enjoy Pink Floyd, The Who, The Beatles and other classic rock bands. Zeppelin is my favorite band, but I wouldn't say they are the best. But to denote Plant's vocals and Page's guitar playing as mediocre? That's a bit much, no? Plant's vocals were intentionally strained to match the bluesy element of the music. This inflection, as well as his incredible range, defined him as a legendary and influential singer. Maybe not the best, but you can't say he was awful. Page's guitar work was intentionally chaotic as well. But it was always orchestrated masterfully and decisively. As for the plagiarism claims, those blues elements they "stole" were actually common folk tunes which they DID credit people for on the fucking album. If you ever owned a Zeppelin album (doubtful), you would see that.

    Lastly, the list of bands you stated as better than Zeppelin was laughable at best. I saw 4-5 bands that were probably comparable and definitely very good, but the rest were absolute trash. Your beloved Deep Purple? Yeah.... if you like that, Zeppelin probably isn't for you anyways, haha.

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    1. "I understand why Led Zeppelin can be hate-worthy for some people. They are played a lot and many Zeppelin hardcore fans overstate the band members. They are definitely played often on the radio, but that's also because-whether you like it or not-they DID definitely take over the 70s in America and England."

      I state blatantly in the article I realize they are one of the biggest bands of all-time. No need to restate the obvious - they are on the level of the Beatles and Elvis. No doubt about it. And while this annoys me to no end, I'm not trying to ignore their fame. I'm just trying to debunk the people who claim they're anything more than a garage band who were in the right place at the right time. People suggesting they are "The greatest band of all-time" need an ear inspection, because as I said in this article...compared to their peers, Led Zeppelin sound like fucking Nickelback.

      "But to denote Plant's vocals and Page's guitar playing as mediocre? That's a bit much, no?"

      No, it isn't a bit much. Both Plant and Page were extremely mediocre. Compare either persons singing / playing to more competent singers / players in their field, and by comparison, they sound like fucking amateurs. There is NOTHING SPECIAL about Robert Plants voice or Jimmy Pages guitar playing. They were the two most underwhelming parts of the band.

      "Plant's vocals were intentionally strained to match the bluesy element of the music. This inflection, as well as his incredible range, defined him as a legendary and influential singer. Maybe not the best, but you can't say he was awful."

      I CAN say he is awful, and I will. Robert Plant is fucking awful. I'd also say he was terrible, shitty, whiny, and pranced about stage like a fucking fairy. He sounded like a teenaged prom girl getting eaten out for the first time after prom with his exaggerated moans and squeals. He sounded like a fucking jackass, if you ask me. "OH BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY!" Nothing is more grating on my ears than Robert Plants awful, terrible, shitty, overrated moans he tried to pass off as singing. Fucking terrible vocalist, through and through, and one of the biggest clowns in classic rock.

      "Page's guitar work was intentionally chaotic as well. But it was always orchestrated masterfully and decisively."

      Pages playing is terribly sloppy and disjointed. He has his moments, but it always sounds like he's either playing with a broken hand, or that he's just attempting licks and leads far beyond his capability. 'Chaotic' is one thing, but 'consistently sloppy' is another thing entirely. Even the guitar riffs of Page on studio albums sound off-time, like they have no start or end. Zeppelin has this weird thing about them, where they play the same thing over and over and over and over again for 20 minutes without actually going ANYWHERE. The song has no narrative - it just drones on and on without changing at all. And somehow, Page managed to take these simplistic 2 bar riffs and make them sound so horribly sloppy, contrived, and disjointed. The band just SOUNDS counterfeit, which is even funnier when considering the fact they stole half their fucking music, because it IS counterfeit.

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    2. "As for the plagiarism claims, those blues elements they "stole" were actually common folk tunes which they DID credit people for on the fucking album. If you ever owned a Zeppelin album (doubtful), you would see that."

      Yea, they DID credit people on the album....after being sued numerous times for it. A judge made them do that, they didn't do it out of the goodness of their heart. A 10 second Google search I just conducted provided me with a list of counterfeit Zeppelin songs, and who they stole them from.

      "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
      "Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
      "Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
      "Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
      "Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
      "Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
      "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
      "How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
      "In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
      "The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
      "Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
      "Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
      "Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
      "Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
      "White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
      "Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."

      The most disgusting aspect is how they'd not only take credit for writing TRADITIONAL SONGS that had been around 100s of years, but they'd also take ONE PERSONS MUSIC and ANOTHER PERSONS LYRICS and throw them together and take credit for both stolen aspects of the song. Led Zeppelin were hacks, thieves, and overrated on a level no other band has ever reached. Not only that, but they were the biggest prudes about letting other people use their music. LZ were so up their own asses, they didn't allow the music THEY STOLE FROM OTHER PEOPLE to be used in any capacity. Fucking self-serving cock-smokers. There is nothing worse in the music industry than over-confident thefts. And Zeppelin are the biggest thefts, and over-confident to a degree very few other bands reach. In conclusion, Led Zeppelin are one of the worst fucking bands of all-time.

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    3. "Lastly, the list of bands you stated as better than Zeppelin was laughable at best. I saw 4-5 bands that were probably comparable and definitely very good, but the rest were absolute trash. Your beloved Deep Purple? Yeah.... if you like that, Zeppelin probably isn't for you anyways, haha."

      Jon Lord of Deep Purple had more talent than every member of Zeppelin combined. Zeppelin don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Deep Purple. I am doing a disservice to music even mentioning them in the same paragraph. Deep Purple on a bad night were light years of Zeppelin on their best night because DEEP PURPLE WERE COMPETENT MUSICIANS AND COMPOSERS. Literally EVERY aspect of Deep Purple is more polished, better executed, more thought-out, and more virtuosic than Led Zeppelin could ever hope to be. That is why Deep Purple members went on to have rich, fulfilling careers after they left Deep Purple. What did Zeppelin members do after leaving Zeppelin? Pretty much nothing. Meanwhile, Deep Purple has an extensive family tree that extends beyond their time in the band and proves they actually had staying power.

      The only thing I give credit to Led Zeppelin for is tricking so many people into believing they're even worthy of listening to. As far as I'm concerned, they are one of the worst bands of all-time and deserve every single insult thrown at them. Compared to GOOD MUSICIANS, Zeppelin sound like fucking Nickelback. Such mediocre, overblown hacks, didn't know what the fuck they were doing on a stage (likely because they injected heroin betwixt their testicles before performing) and getting over-credited by a bunch of idiot music fans who just blindly believe all the unnecessary hype.

      LED ZEPPELIN FUCKING SUCK.

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  17. I hate Led Zeppelin. If I want to listen to rock 'n roll, I'll listen to Jerry Lee Lewis performing live at Hamburg's Star Club, or a Chuck Berry album, or something like "Beat on the Brat" by the Ramones. Zep's music is mostly too slow, just loud, and the guitar sound is all wrong for my tastes. I confess that most of the hippy, new age music of the late sixties and early seventies leaves me cold, and I like my rock 'n roll played fast, and not overproduced. DEVO or the first B-52s album sound better than Led Zeppelin. I do like Dread Zeppelin however.

    Call me an elitist, but I'd rather crank up Johnny Burnette & the Rock 'n Roll Trio ANYDAY over "classic rock" like Led Zeppelin.

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    1. I prefer music that sounds both artistically expressive AND musically dynamic. Led Zeppelin sound like sloppy, disjointed jam sessions by band members too drunk or doped out to remember how to properly play their instruments. Plant is awful at singing, too.

      "Classic Rock" is such a subjective term, though. I mean, the Who sounds nothing like Jethro Tull, who sound nothing like Deep Purple, who don't sound anything like Kansas, who...well, you get the picture. It's such a diverse genre it's hard to write off entirely. But to hone in on one artist that I particularly loath, it would obviously be Led Zeppelin. They get far too much credit they don't deserve.

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  18. Akon is better than any other rock bullshit in the past be it Led Zep or Deep Purcocks.

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    1. C'mon, that's some horrible trolling. Some faggot R&B singer with 4 simplistic, over-produced, cookie-cutter albums doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as ANY of the artists mentioned in this article.

      GTFO, and brush up on your trolling skills, you amateur.

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  19. LOL your music sucks!!!...go slap yourself and GO LISTEN TO GOOD MUSIC LIKE:
    Green Day
    Linkin Park
    Marilyn Manson
    Metallica
    Black Veil Brides
    this guys are better that Deep Purcock and Led Zep BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKED UP SHIT!!!
    P.S GO LISTEN TO GREEN DAY MORE AND GET A LIFE

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  20. yeah thats because your one of those people who say that "when its famous,has terrible clothing and has is always played on the radio then it sucks"..and that is why you are stupid...go listen to more good music..DEEP PURCOCK FAGGOT

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    1. Are you really trying to suggest I'm stupid after typing out "DEEP PURCOCK FAGGOT"? Fucking retard.

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    2. yes and you should listen to more Marilyn Manson and Green Day..they are WAAAAY better and they have good musical cover....deep purple is shit!!....you should feel bad.I hope you listen to more Marilyn Manson and Green Day because deep purcocks are OVERRATED!

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    3. This isn't even worth responding to. But it's such horrible, abysmal trolling I'm actually going to delete anything else you have to say from this point forward. And I don't censor people lightly.....I'm 100% against censorship. But I can't be bothered to respond to this level of stupidity and insipidly bland verbal retardation anymore

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  21. I totally agree. I've never understood why they became so succesful. I never bought a Zepp record in the 70's. They are very good musicians, but their music stink.

    On youtube I recently saw 2 clips with Keith Richards and Pete Townsend. They didn't like zepp very much, said the name was very apt. Filled with lead their music never took off.

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    1. A lot of musicians from that era are probably 'jealous' of the accolades piled at Zeps feet. I know Cream aren't too fond of Zeppelin. And if I were a member of Cream I wouldn't be fond of Zeppelin at all, considering Cream kind of pioneered the style Zeppelin eventually adopted

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  22. You sir deserve a fucking medal or wathever. It's about fucking time someone came out and said all this. Led Zep is so fucking overrated I can't find an appropriated adjective for it, relly. They're mediocre. I can't stand listening to one entire Zep album. In fact, i've never managed to do so, no matter how hard I've tried. Plant is just annoying. Paice>Boham. Jones was the best in the band, a really great bassist. Page was so sloppy it's just an offense to most guitar players that he is considered even one of the best. He was complete shit live. Fucking stole so many songs. He has maybe one or two good solos. It's revolting how Ritchie Blackmore gets much less praise than him, as Deep Purple gets much less praise than Zeppelin. Blackmore is easily in my top 3. He was doing sweeping licks in 1969. He schooled an etire generation of shredders. He can play ridiculously fast and he also has that deep blues feeling vibe. He's one of the reasons I play the guitar. Jon Lord (RIP) is the reason I would play the keyboard if I had the time or pacience to learn it. Made in Japan is without a question the best live album of the 70s.
    Deep Purple and Sabbath were so much better than Zep. Like you mentioned, they actually had songs with more than 2 riffs in them. Zeppelin is repetitive like a broken record. Iommi shits on Page anyday both as a performer and composer (specially as a composer), even with his fucked up fingers. Don't even get me started on Jethro Tull.
    Fuck, I never though I would find someone who though this way about Led Zeppelin.
    You've made my day. Best thing I've read in the internet for a long time.

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    1. Zeppelin are one of those random phenomenons of hype in pop culture that 99% of people find amazing for no particular reason at all. Hype over substance.

      Reminds me of 'The Dark Knight.' It was such a bland movie which seemed to somehow avoid any sort of criticism despite flaunting a number of glaring flaws. Which can also be said about Zeppelin - bland music which seems to completely avoid any sort of criticism despite flaunting a number of glaring flaws. Again, it's all hype over substance. If any musician actually deserved to stalk the lofty pedestal which Zeppelin are raised on, it would be Frank Zappa.

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  23. fuck zeppelin and pink floyd, two most overated pseudo bands in the 21st century (as of right now)

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    1. Pink Floyd are leagues ahead of Zeppelin in literally every category. I can see how Floyds music could bore people or become grating - they have a very slow, plodding sound. But they are masters of tension and atmosphere. Every note Floyd plays has such emotion and impact. Zeppelin is the direct opposite of Floyd in these regards - they don't seem to play notes with purpose. And they couldn't compose their way out of a paper bag, whereas Floyd had a roster of amazing song-writers.

      But again, I can see why someone would dislike Floyd. I personally think they deserve credit, whereas Zeppelin literally don't deserve it.

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  24. led zep sucks....I listened to one deep purples song and it was better than listening to stairway to heaven by led zep

    BUT.....I think Marilyn Manson makes better songs and is completely honest about his work you should try it out dude...try out the Reflecting God,Irresposible Hate Anthem and Great Big White World...I don't really mind you showing your opinion about
    MM the point here still stands LED ZEPPELIN SUCKS

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    1. I don't particularly care for Marilyn Manson, but I don't hate his work either. Antichrist Superstar was a bitching record, even if he is technically just a poor mans Alice Cooper.

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  25. They definitely had/have people in a trance. I used to be good friends with someone who is a huge Led Zeppelin fan and ever since I said I don't like them that much it has never been the same since. I mean, I just don't get how people can get so butthurt about it unless they're in a fucking trance. What have you done Jimmy Page?

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    1. What has Jimmy Page done? Likely sucked Aleister Crowleys dick a few dozen times so he would divulge the secrets of the devils chord. Or some other esoteric musical knowledge bullshit

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  26. nah man some of your music sucks....except for black sabbath,deep purple and queen...however your bands better need cooler bands man like:
    black veil brides
    Green Day
    Linkin Park
    michael learns to rock
    red hot chilli peppers
    Marilyn Manson
    nine inch nails
    avenged sevenfold
    metallica
    kiss
    slipknot
    maroon 5

    listen to the following and this is best blog I've seen

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    1. Again, you're clearly a troll of some nature. Avenged Sevenfold? Maroon 5? Linkin Park? Green Day? Did you not notice my Green Day article?

      http://sweetfunkyfreedom.blogspot.com/2012/09/fuck-off-green-day.html

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    2. Did Maroon 5 just get mentioned in your list of shit???? Holy shit

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  27. I agree with Sweet Funky Freedom. You've hit the nail on the head-baby,baby,baby,;ooh yeah,ooh yeah, ooh yeah; off key vocals and sloppy guitar. Plus the fact that they've blatantly stolen music from others and claimed it as original. This band sucks and their defensive fans suck worse.

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  28. Uh, Zeppelin was pretty good. I am not sure Zappa's version of Stairway is so much better what with the really staccato execution.

    It is true that their worst song was probably their biggest hit but who is to blame for that?

    If they are "overrated" or got more success than they "deserved" (lets face it, compared to what it took to make it in the 17th-19th centuries they are almost all overrated) it is because of Peter Grant. He was a thug in his own right but he had the good sense not to rip off his own group. And he fought like hell for his group in that shithole known as the music business. So he was the reason Zep got so big despite what shortcomings you perceive. So if you want to rant, blame him.

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    1. If a band is all about the marketing, to the point of having the time to have sex with mud sharks and kidnap 14 year old girls, holding them captive for years on end, it kind of goes without saying.

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  29. Some interesting thoughts here, Sweet Funky Freedom. You strike me as an intelligent, thoughtful, cool guy. I must first of all admit that I am a huge Jimmy Page/Led Zeppelin fan, but I totally respect your right not to like them. You're not as alone as you think. I'm 46, and none of the people that I've worked with professionally or socialized with during my career were big Zeppelin fans. Most of them were/are either non-rock fans who were into jazz, classical and the like, or they preferred bands like the Talking Heads or Genesis, or if they did like rock music, they preferred the Beatles or the Stones. I currently work with a lot of people who fancy themselves "tastemakers" and who view themselves as being part of the social/cultural elite. Many of them have Ivy league degrees, etc. This might surprise you to learn, but among this crowd I'm actually afraid to admit that I like Zeppelin. Why? Because it's not really socially acceptable to admit to such a thing in this circle. The only "rock bands" that these people really think are "cool" or "hip" are Bob Dylan, the Beatles, the Stones, and maybe the Doors or Joplin, but not much else.

    You remind me in some ways of myself when I was in high school. I was literally one of the only kids in HS who didn't like Zeppelin. I didn't hate them, I just found them a bit boring and "blah." I preferred bands like Van Halen, Def Leppard, Judas Priest, Scorpions, etc. So what happened? Well, in college I became friends with two guys who loved Zeppelin. Whenever I went to their dorm room they'd always be playing live Zeppelin, either the soundtrack from the movie The Song Remains The Same, or a live bootleg. The more I listened to their live stuff, the more intrigued and fascinated I became. This growing love affair continued for several months. I listened to the Zep albums again, and finally saw The Song Remains The Same movie, and slowly realized "Oh my god, these guys were absolutely incredible." I found Zep to be utterly and uniquely transporting, intoxicating, mesmerizing, mystical, mysterious, magical, and above all--majestic. I suddenly understood why Zep had been so popular during the 70's, and so popular among my high school peers. I realized that Zep (and Page in particular) were infinitely better than Def Leppard, Van Halen, Judas Priest, etc. I was amazed at Page's guitar virtuosity, his sonic landscapes, and his artistic vision. (I have since come to believe that the only guitarist who rivals Page in this regard is Jimi Hendrix.) My feelings about Zep may have been best summarized by a concert review written by the music critic Tony Palmer for The Observer. (Palmer was a noted music critic at the time, and has since gone on to become an award winning film director.) Palmer wrote his review after seeing one of Zeppelin's famous Earl's Court shows in London in May, 1975. After seeing Zep in concert, Palmer wrote, "There is no theater like it, no action painting which approaches the constantly fluctuating patterns of light and sound...Led Zeppelin has propelled rock n roll into the forefront of artistic achievement in the mid-1970's." Palmer wasn't just talking about musical achievement here, he was saying that Zep was at the forefront of achievement among all of the different genres of artistic expression. I believe that Palmer's assessment in this regard was absolutely correct.

    I'm not trying to persuade you to like Zeppelin. Everybody has their own tastes and preferences and you have the right to like whatever music you choose. You did mention that you have tried to get into Zeppelin in the past and it simply didn't work. I totally respect you for that. I respect you for trying. Zeppelin is not for everyone. There is nothing wrong with not liking a band. The world would be a boring place if everybody liked the same music.






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  30. I forgot to mention a few things that I thought you might find interesting. I had a good friend in college who tried very hard to get me into the Dead. I listened to them a lot, I tried really hard, but I just never "got" it. I liked the space jams, but for me their music never "clicked." My friend was cool about this, and just told me "the Dead is not for everyone, don't worry about it."

    I believe the Dead was a "lifestyle" cult. Their shows had a communal, welcoming atmosphere, kids travelled around the country following the band on tour, and for many fans it was a lifestyle thing. I believe that Zeppelin was/is a cult too, but more of a purely "musical" cult.

    The appeal of Zeppelin's live music is an interesting phenomenon. In the live environment, the band's music was--at its best--powerful, mesmerizing, near-hypnotic and quasi-trance inducing. Electronic mind-control music? To a certain extent, perhaps.

    I can think of at least 10 of Jimmy Page's
    girlfriends, by name, all of whom he dated during the 70's. Of these, 9 were over-aged women. I can assure you that no teen-aged girls were ever kidnapped and held "captive for years on end." All the women who knew Page--who I'm aware of-- described Page as a sweet, sensitive gentleman.

    I would encourage you to consider watching Zep's movie, The Song Remains The Same, if you haven't already done so. Or you might consider listening to the movie soundtrack a few times. If you do, and you find that the music just doesn't work for you, that's fine. Like I said before, Zeppelin is not for everyone.

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    1. The Dead certainly were a "lifestyle" cult, but don't let that undermine their musical efforts. They forged a very signature sound and very signature execution of live musical performance. There was a damn good reason people followed them around the country (and still do to this day), and although it was (and is) a largely drug fueled scene, the music is genuinely the most important thread holding that entire counter culture together. Jerry Garcia really was an amazing guitarist, total wizard with melodies. The chemistry the band had was pure magic....and totally an acquired taste. I can understand someone being turned off by their style, their timing, the way the guitars are constantly bubbling over into the next line with fluidly chromatic lead parts, off-key singing to boot. It's an acquired taste.

      Pretty much every band generates a sort of "cult" following; KISS Army, Manowarriors, Deadheads, etc. The Grateful Dead cult extended BEYOND the musical and bred a counter-culture movement. The entire jam band / festival scene, really. I don't think the Zeppelin cult could even come close to the level of the Deadhead following. Zeppelins cult following is more similar to that of the Beatles; both bands have numerous and varied supporters, so much so it spills into the mainstream. It's considered common knowledge the Beatles and Zeppelin are two of the most important bands in history. They both influenced the music that came after them in a big way. (Beatles revolutionized recording techniques. Sabbath, Purple and Zeppelin all pushed rock towards metal. Sabbath brought the heaviness and dark imagery, and can later be traced to doom metal, death metal, and black metal. Deep Purple brought the speed and classical influence, which can later be traced to thrash metal, power metal, and neo-classical shred. Led Zeppelin brought the mystical themes, ripped-off blues, and ego posturing, which eventually influenced cock rock / hair bands.)

      Jimmy Page DEFINITELY ground scored a 14 year old groupie and banged the fuck out of her for years. Google "Lori Maddox and Jimmy Page." Here's a picture:
      http://superduper.co.za/lucky/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lori-maddox1.jpg

      I have watched two of Zeppelins DVDs before. The first I had seen was when I was still in 7th or 8th grade. I remember watching the entire thing with my band at the time after we had practiced. I actively TRIED to get into the performance, but the entire time I just kept thinking to myself "Why is this so fucking sloppy? Why do I hate this, isn't this supposed to be the ultimate rock band?"

      About a decade later a friend and me were discussing this very topic during a long car drive - Zeppelin being a product of marketing and mystique vs. substance and musical prowess. So my friend driving is like "I'm gonna throw on some live Zeppelin right now, give it a chance?" Of course I obliged, and it ended up being a really killer live album. The sloppiness was gone, the band sounded tight and energized, Page and Plant even sounded SOBER. I gotta stress, that it wasn't "Greatest band of all-time" material, what we were listening to. It didn't deserve nearly as much credit as the hype machine gives them. It wasn't "Made in Japan" status or anything like that. But it was a lot better than I had remembered.

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    2. My point entirely is that the things everyone claims made Zeppelin stand so much taller than all the other bands of that era....it was a product OF that era. ALL the bands of that time period had this unrivaled energy. It was a period of great growth, incredible musicianship, intense innovation. There was so much unexplored musical territory, so much new recording technology. ALL OF THE BANDS OF THAT ERA had that amazing energy, and I think too many people only see it in Zeppelin, vs seeing it in ALL the bands. And from an unbiased perspective, strictly rooted in musical theory, Led Zeppelin were one of the weakest bands of their time period. Most of their peers could easily play circles around them, both live and in the studio. And most of their peers didn't steal a large percentage of their music.

      "Zeppelin is not for everyone" is the kind of pompous statement that makes them such an annoying entity. That same statement applies to literally every band in existence. Not saying you meant it in a disparaging fashion, but that's the sort of aura that for some reason follows this band...they are immortalized as something superior to everything else. It's almost like saying "You just don't UNDERSTAND Led Zeppelin." If I regularly listen to Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Spyro Gyra, Al Di Meola, and Django Reinhardt then clearly I can 'understand' Zeppelin, ya know? Their blend of sloppy blues, semi-bombast and repetitive song structures just doesn't do it for me. They're to lacking in the musical dynamics category, in that the mood of their songs is unwavering.

      To summarize, I just think Zeppelin are given way too much credit when literally 90% of their peers play and compose circles around them. I appreciate the amicable discussion presented, most people are attacking me whereas you are just expressing your opinion in a civilized fashion. So kudos, sir.

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    3. What you said is the best way to word how Zeppelin really were as a band. For me personally i dont find them intresting, I listened to a lot of Zeppelin in 2006 and got sick of them fast. They sounded like a three piece band i could never hear the bass and the Hammond was rarely used. Some of Plants lyrics were childish and could have been written by a 9th grader. Jimmy Page had some ok riffs and some pretty generic lame riffs (The Ocean Comes To Mind). Zeppelin appealed to the Mindless Masses!!! you are a huge Deep Purple fan well so i am. I would take In Rock over every single Zeppelin album. Deep Purple's musicianship is better than Zeppelin on every level yes i would take Paice over Bonham(once again more intresting). Look at the bands that came out of Deep Purple (Captain Beyond, Warhorse, Rainbow and so on). Zeppelin ivented nothing i laugh when i hear Zeppelin and heavy metal in the same sentence. Hard Rock and Blues Rock were around a few years before their 1968 debut. Speaking of their 1968 only two song are originals the other songs are basically the same song reworded (woman did me wrong or im rambliing). My favorite heavy blues rock album of all time is Free-Tons Of Sobs (1969). For anyone who doesent know Paul Rodgers is the best rock singer of all time you should all check out Free's debut album. The Radio is also to blame for this shit there were a lot of bands as good as Zeppelin but never got the credit. Check out a german band from the 70's called Lucifers Friend. The released their debut album in 1970 all the songs were original and the music had that doom sound of early Sabbath. Not to mention John Lawton could sing and had better control of his voice. Not one of Zeppelins songs can make the hair on my arm stand up but when you listen to a profound piece of music like Close To The Edge by Yes you realize Zeppelin could in no way shape or form compose a piece of music on that level. You can like Zeppelin or you can hate them but the fact remains the same they are overrated.

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  31. HOW DARE YOU SAY NIRVANA SUCKS?!! NIRVANA IS GOOD...ehem..ehem..honestly I don't give much fucks about that part...yes Led Zeppelin sucks THEY SO BORING AND DULL THEY SOUND LIKE FUCKWITS THAT ARE HIGH ON ACID...and I also read your Green Day article before reading this,and seriously?? you used insults of a 15 year old Led Zeppelin fan..of course american idiot isn't an album about rebel or going against politics its just simply a rock opera (im not sure about the story) if there is any album that sucks that's 21st century breakdown....and YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID BOULEVARD OF BROKEN DREAMS WAS OVERRATED...whatsername was a better song than that....even though all of that Deep Purple,Black Sabbath and Rainbow are good band and deserve a lot more

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  32. Its very obvious that you just don't understand the band. They were a band that was greater than the sum of their parts. Page is an excellent guitarist but he is not really up there with the best of the best. What he is known for is creating great and memorable riffs. He was a good song writer. Plant is all over the place and I can 100% agree if you don't like him. I have days where I can't stand him. The thing is, like Ozzy and other metal singers he wasn't about being a technically accomplished singer he was about putting on a good show. You have already admitted that their rhythm section was good so no point in mentioning that again.
    My main point is to say yes they are overrated they were at the right place at the right time but they definitely had the talent that they earned the status of being overrated.

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    1. What do you mean, "understand" the band? That sounds like a "buzz-statement" directly from their marketing team. Led Zeppelin is a band that is "greater than the sum of their parts," sure....in other words, they were 75% hype, 25% substance, and 25% substance abuse. Zeppelin has this aura of almost mystic hype that surrounds them, and it had almost nothing to do with their music. The reason they are so overrated is because of their marketing and Jimmy Pages dealings in the occult. This is one of the biggest reasons I dislike them so vehemently - they take credit they don't deserve while simultaneously plagiarizing far more competent and talented composers material.

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  33. Another thing to think about is how come bands like Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Steely Dan, Van Ger Graaf Generator (all of them had superior players to Zeppelin) dont get mentioned or as much love. The mindless masses dont like stuff that requires to much thought or focus. Progressive Rock requires your full attention it can be exhausting and more rewarding listening to music of that high calibar. I mean Michael Jackson's Thriller is the second biggest selling album of all time. I think that should tell you that there is no accounting for taste!!!! Record Sales mean jack shit.

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    1. Yea, sales don't mean shit as far as I'm concerned. Composition and live performance are what's important.

      I'm far more impressed with bands that make it on their own, play by their own rules, rarely get radio or TV play. Bands like Iron Maiden for example. Maidens vocalist, Bruce Dickinson, flies the band from show to show on their tours on a fucking airplane. That's a band that pretty much did it all on their own terms, maintained 'street cred,' but never in any way sold-out. They are self-made musical legends, like many other bands before them.

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    2. And did you just self-proclaim that you're a better guitarist than Jimmy Page? And you can create better riffs than him with todays technology? You must be joking. I don't think you can create a riff greater than Kashmir in your career. Period.

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    3. You are using these generic, stereotypical debate tactics that hold zero weight or gravity. "You must be joking." Way to go, dickhead. You didn't even attempt to debunk what I'm saying; you're merely using scape-goat catch phrases to come across condescending in attempt to ridicule what I'm saying without having to formulate an actual response. Well here's MY argument, since I like to back up what I'm saying:

      A 38 minute song I composed, produced, mastered and mixed in my home studio in less than 2 weeks time. (I played every note on guitar, keyboard, and bass.)

      https://soundcloud.com/jonoftheshred/apocalypticdawn

      Your move.

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    4. I do not know what riff you were trying to create but, you missed it.

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    5. Of course you don't know what riff I was trying to create....you probably don't champion the attention span necessitated to listen to the entire 38 minutes. The song is the ending of a concept album I composed and recorded throughout 2012. I advertise said album in a joking fashion as "The Walking Dead meets Pink Floyd's the Wall meets Ennio Morricone on a sheet of LSD." The entire album depicts a zombie apocalypse. No words, just instrumental music recorded in my home studio.

      That enough back story for you? Maybe you'd appreciate the music more if I had the press and music critics sucking my dick, hypnotizing you to enjoy something because "Everyone is supposed to enjoy it." You obviously don't know shit about music, judging from your responses on this article. Just the fact you can't even formulate a coherent insult to describe my music reveals you either couldn't fathom the song, or simply refused to. In any case, you've proven your opinion is of far less value in mine, since you;

      A) Haven't posted a single sentence showcasing your ability to comprehend and appreciate a diverse variety of music, or even posted a single sentence showcasing an ability to wittily articulate your thoughts.
      B) Didn't compose a 38 minute song you then performed on multiple instruments, engineering and mastering the track in your self-built home studio in 2 weeks time at the tender age of 24.

      You're clearly going in with a biased opinion against whatever I was going to post. Fact is, I play over a dozen instruments and have composed at least 100 songs. At least I can BACK UP what I'm saying with my own original songs and the knowledge of music theory inherently requisite in the composition process. I possess talent, experience, and a decent vocabulary to articulate my thoughts. What do you have to back your views up? The popular opinion mainstream media has shit into your brain for decades? Because if that is all you have, you're only proving my point this band is overrated.

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    6. Hmm lets see. Would i rather waste 2 weeks of my time creating shit? NO. I'm sure i gave you lots of facts but your too busy believing your own "facts" which is nonsensical crap by the way. No music critics would ever suck your microscopic penis. I did not know you have to "build" your own studio. Why don't you strive to get a REAL job rather than wasting your life away creating shit? Say, are those 100 songs all in your own head?

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    7. "Hmm lets see. Would i rather waste 2 weeks of my time creating shit?"

      You wouldn't waste 2 weeks of your life composing music, but you'll waste an entire night making a fool of yourself on some blog? You're literally personally attacking someone you've never met behind a veil of anonymity with intense vitriol and contempt, all because they took the piss out of a band adored by the majority? Sound logic, friend. You're nothing short of the perfect rant bait. Your stupidity is like a sponge, it unwittingly absorbs everything I throw at you without comprehending it in the slightest. Because sponges are, like, inanimate objects and such.

      "NO. I'm sure i gave you lots of facts but your too busy believing your own "facts" which is nonsensical crap by the way."

      You gave me lots of facts? No you didn't buddy. You merely stated opinions of critics and magazine publications. You're spouting your opinion like it is fact, but I'm not asking for facts and never was. If I asked anything it was the analytical breakdown of your opinions, and a description of what puts Zeppelin ahead of hundreds of bands of that era. You have done no such thing in any of your retarded, limp-dick posts. I legitimately think you might be mentally handicapped in some fashion.

      "No music critics would ever suck your microscopic penis."

      Well since I don't have a microscopic penis, of course they won't. I would never expect music critics to suck my nonexistent microscopic penis. In fact, I wouldn't want music critics to suck my existent, large penis either. Your mom does a great job at it, though. She told me she's jealous that your dad lets you suck his dick, so she sucks mine to get back at both of you. You're a sick fucking family, bro.

      "I did not know you have to "build" your own studio."

      Yea, it's called building up the necessary resources to produce music. I BUILT my DAW (digital audio workspace) up with dozens of VSTs (virtual instruments), and that is just one aspect of a studio.

      "Why don't you strive to get a REAL job rather than wasting your life away creating shit?"

      Again, where do you get this impression that because I write music and comedy, I don't have a job? How do you know that my income doesn't trump yours? You simply don't know these things. It's a pathetic attempt at gaining your footing after terribly executing your disjointed banter.

      "Say, are those 100 songs all in your own head?"

      There are at least 20 - 40 songs on my soundcloud, and another dozen on youtube. Free to listen to, you cock sucker. Have at it.

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    8. "I did not know you have to "build" your own studio." Obviously you do not know the meaning of this phrase. "Well since I don't have a microscopic penis, of course they won't. I would never expect music critics to suck my nonexistent microscopic penis. In fact, I wouldn't want music critics to suck my existent, large penis either. Your mom does a great job at it, though. She told me she's jealous that your dad lets you suck his dick, so she sucks mine to get back at both of you. You're a sick fucking family, bro." Hm are you sure its not the other way around? Congrats cum stain, you made a fool out of yourself.

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    9. "Build a studio" is a common phrase used to describe the procurement of necessary audio recording equipment. For example...

      "How to Build a Home Studio for Computer Based Music Recording"
      http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Home-Studio-for-Computer-Based-Music-Recording

      "Building a Home Studio"
      http://www.humbuckermusic.com/jul5th20buil.html

      "How to Build a Home Recording Studio for Under $1,000"
      http://voices.yahoo.com/how-build-home-recording-studio-under-1000-12134075.html

      "How to Build a Home Studio"
      http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324436104578579072872548876

      "Building a Home Recording Studio"
      http://www.audio-issues.com/building-a-home-recording-studio/

      "Build a Studio"
      http://homerecording.about.com/od/homestudiobasics/u/Recording_Basics.htm

      Building a studio is actually commonplace vernacular of producers and musicians. You wouldn't know that, though, since you likely have zero musical talent and can barely comprehend basic English, nevermind the performance of a dynamic musical instrument.

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    10. Even Google agrees with me on this one:

      Searches related to build a home studio

      build a home studio booth
      build a home studio recording
      build a home studio on any budget
      build home photo studio
      build home portrait studio
      build home video studio
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      Wow, would you look at that? Another word you didn't realize the existence of. I should be getting paid to tutor you, you've learned the words "lose" "probable" and using "build" in a context other than hammers and nails. I'm sure learning three new words is a breakthrough for someone on your catatonic level of stupidity.

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    11. I'm surprise a person who got a scholarship can't grasp what that simple phrase actually means. Can't you afford to buy some of those equipments?

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    12. I can't quite grasp the audacity of someone who regularly throws out accusations at people of being "dumb" when that very person they are attacking is soundly trouncing them with little to no effort. You can't even form simplistic sentences, bro. You fail at even the most basic verbal articulation. You're a prime example of the pot calling the kettle "negro."

      "Can't you afford to buy some of those equipments?"

      Those equipments? The word equipment is already pluralized. "Those equipments" is grammatically incorrect. How can you call people dumb after saying that? Read that back to yourself, jackass.

      "I'm surprise a person who got a scholarship can't grasp what that simple phrase actually means. Can't you afford to buy some of those equipments?"

      What you meant to say was....
      "I'm surprised the recipient of a college scholarship can't grasp what a simple phrase means. Can you not afford that equipment?"

      It is quite the pointless endeavor to point out the flaws and hypocrisy in your responses. Either you ate copious amounts of paint chips throughout your adolescence, or you're trolling at a master level - making yourself an easy target to trick me into wasting unnecessary minutes of my life pointing out flaws in your unwitting diatribe.

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  34. Totally true i have nothing against some of the mainstream music by that i mean Classic Rock and the sub genres. By early 2007 i was sick of the radio and began the search for obscure bands that didnt make it. Its been a six year journey and in that time i have discovered some great stuff that blows the radio friendly shit out of the water. There are still people to this day that think Steve Perry is the voice of Journey these are the people that have never heard the first three Journey albums with Gregg Rollie their 1975 self titled album is their best.

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  35. @Sweet funky. Everyone has their own opinion. For you, Led Zep sucks,but i'm sure majority of people agree they are arguably the greatest rock band of all time. Those bands you listed (in your opinion) are better, can't even hold a candle to Led. Before you rant how Led are overrated and are the worst band of all time, did you ask anyone whether they agree with you a bit? Why don't you try asking professional musicians whether they 'really' suck or thats your own opinion. Anyways it doesn't matter as thats your own opinion and you should know not everyone agrees with you.

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    1. If "Everyone has their own opinion," why then do you feel the need to come here to attempt to invalidate mine? I didn't send your local postal worker to your doorstep with a 'Sweet Funky Freedom' pamphlet explaining why Led Zeppelin sucks. I didn't order a singing telegram to harass you with lyrics about Page statutory raping 14 year olds and Robert Plant pompously ripping off blues singers. I bet you literally searched "Led Zeppelin sucks" on Google with the sole intention of debunking Led Zeppelin defamers.

      So explain to me why you would open your response to this article with an assurance that "Everyone has their own opinion," only to then hypocritically attack an opinion that differs from your own?

      Also, if you're going to attempt to trivialize an ENTIRE list of bands, at least offer evidence why said bands "can't hold a candle" to Led Zeppelin. Just because the mainstream consensus in the US is "Zeppelin are gods" doesn't make them anything more than a cock rock garage band when compared to more competent musicians and composers. All you Zeppelin fans love to blatantly ignore how sloppy, repetitive, and plagiarism-driven this band really is. Then you throw them up on this unwarranted pedestal, offering nothing in the way of an explanation of why they are so much better than the hundreds of other amazing bands of that error.

      Why can no Led Zeppelin fan offer reasoning behind their blind and deaf faith and devotion to the over-credited Zeppelin? Explain to me the appeal. Explain to me why those 26 bands I listed should be marginalized and ignored in favor of Led Zeppelin.

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    2. When i said everyone has their own opinion, it doesn't mean one has to rant their bullshit on the internet like you. For example, if i do not like a certain artist, do i spread bullshit of them in the internet? If plagiarism is your sole excuse, then you're really pathetic. Don't tell me singers nowadays do not plagiarise. Repetitive? As if those bands you listed that are better aren't. When a band can create ACTUAL riffs like Zeppelin unlike yours, then they might someday be in their league. But for now, NO. I am not going to waste my time trying to explain to a fool who's full of himself. At least those bands you listed did not boastfully say they are better than Zep. If Led truly suck, why are they often rated among the greatest artist in many magazines not to mention some of their songs are in the Hall of Fame. I doubt your "masterpiece" of 38 minutes shit is going into the Hall of Fame anytime soon.

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    3. And also shithead, educate yourself before you speak. Page did NOT rape the girl. That girl was interviewed and guess what Sherlock, she herself said she wanted to be with him. Seriously, get your facts straight before you attempt to debate. I bet your brain isn't developed properly at birth. Do you know when someone search "Are Led Zeppelin.................." then your search result is on the list. Bet you didn't know that gollum. You must be too busy trying to type all this bullshit saying how Led sucks when they managed to set world records and sell hundreds of millions of albums worldwide unlike you. And also, just because we have good taste in music does not make us deaf and blind. Maybe you yourself are deaf as thats the only reason i can think when you said those bands you listed above are better and you can create better riffs than Jimmy Page. I doubt you can even play a guitar using a violin bow.

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    4. If Led Zeppelin were not overrated we all wouldnt be here would we??? you yourself know it to be true, also the owner of this blog is pretty damm smart. Stop using the word opinion he is going on facts here. Opinions are for people who lack taste and dont know the facts. The reasons why Zeppelin were overrated are endless and those reasons arent opinions those reasons are facts my friend. Start naming some other great bands from that era do you know any???? do you want a list of bands that were better than Zeppelin and made more quality music. Just because you make the radio doesent make you the best

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    5. Another one full of life. Dude , do you even know whats the meaning of overrated? For example, if a band truly suck, and they get praises from everyone, then that IS overrated. For led, they actually create a new genre with black Sabbath and deep purple which is hard rock. The reason I used the word opinion in my comments is because what he said are not facts one bit at all. Before you even call them overrated, did you ask any professional musicians whether they are overrated or in your own opinion they are? The only band thats better us the beatles and maybe thr stones. But sure, why don't you list me bands that you think are better Sherlock?

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    6. Hey faggot, a few things....

      1) Why do you feel it necessary to call me Sherlock? Are you attempting to patronize me and my observations? If so, you're failing miserably, Watson.
      2) I said Jimmy Page STATUTORY RAPED a 14 year old girl, which he totally did. Doesn't matter if she was into it or not, smashing 14 year olds when you're well into your 20's = statutory rape.
      3) You claim I need to get my facts straight, yet you don't even understand the concept of statutory rape. You sure do seem to enjoy digging yourself into a hole though, maybe ditch digging to "Communication Breakdown" is the perfect career for you. Writing and debating certainly aren't in your future.
      4) Why are all you Led Zeppelin retards so impressed with Jimmy Page playing guitar with a bow? BIG FUCKING DEAL. I guarantee, if given a bow, I could easily manage to play stuff. I have a LAPSTEEL GUITAR, which is essentially the same concept, but instead of using a BOW you use this awesome little thing called a GUITAR SLIDE. Same exact concept.

      Here's an idea; why don't you find out the next time these hacks are reuniting with Jason Bonham, pay for the outrageously priced tickets, then go suck all of their dicks, eventually choking on their ejaculate and saving the internet from your rampant stupidity.

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    7. "Another one full of life." What's with all these little smarmy, passive-aggressive taunts you sprinkle throughout your lymphatic responses? It's ironic you'd even use that phrase as an insult, considering your responses are SO LACKING IN LIFE that you'd even think "Another one full of life" was a passable retort in this debate. Are you that dense, simpleton? Not only do you appear completely brainwashed by media hype, but you lack the ability to even discern the difference between intensely hyperbolic ranting and authentically sincere criticism. After you finish reading this response, before you go to type out more of your discursive muttering, grab yourself a dictionary and look up the words "Satire" and "Hyperbole."

      Let me level with you. Led Zeppelin are talented musicians. They are hugely popular, and an influential force in music. They are LEGENDS. One of the most celebrated rock bands in all of history. Correct? They do deserve respect and admiration, but........

      NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF MUSIC.

      They are most assuredly OVERRATED on such a precipitous level that even their fans feel it necessary to argue with anyone who isn't part of the Zeppelin cult. You must have missed that part of my article, it seems like every Zeppelin fan misses that part of this rant. Let me quote myself, jabroni, since you'll likely have trouble finding it.

      "Why the fuck does MY opinion matter, any way? I'm just ONE musician, one complete nobody that rants on a comedy blog no one laughs at and releases free music, fairly regularly, that no one listens to. (It would make peoples brains explode, so they're dodging a musical bullet by ignoring my shit.) Who gives a fuck that I don't like Led Zeppelin?

      FUCK YOU for personally attacking me for stating an opinion, you fucking shitheads, I didn't even bring you up! This is between ME and LED ZEPPELIN. STAND DOWN!"

      But I don't know why I bother going into such detail. It's not like you've provided any sound reasoning or vocabularic coherency. It's like nuking an ant.

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    8. No shit cockhead. My my you never fail to surprise me. Looks like someone can't stand sarcasm. Most probably you're not that bright after all. Google yourself the meaning of consensual and raped. Bet you do not know the meaning. You do realize that only you and your buffon brigade are trying to rant over the same bullshit that everyone knows such as plagiarism. Seriously, can't you think of other things to support your bullshit? A fucking lapsteel is much easier to play than a guitar with a bow fuck head. I'm sure you did not know that as these while you must be too busy drinking your dad's cum till you lost all the light. Let me give you an advise, why don't you quit your current job then dig a 6 feet deep hole and bury yourself with your bullshits. That solves everything. Indeed no one give a fuck about your opinion gollum if you did not post your rants on the internet. If you were that afraid to get screwed, why did you make a page with the comment option? Again, FUCK YOU! This time, there's no need for you to reply. You already lost before you started.

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    9. How many times do i have to explain to retards the meaning of overrated? You just proved retardacy has no boundaries. But rest assured, i'm sure your prince charming will come rescue his damsel in distress. Well you can always google it if you do not know what that means.

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    10. "My my you never fail to surprise me."

      You debate like such a cock-sucker.

      "Looks like someone can't stand sarcasm."

      Sarcasm is arguably a pillar of satire, jackass. Instead of seeking the definitions of satire and hyperbole like I suggested, you just mirrored my suggestion and replaced "satire" and "hyperbole" with "sarcasm."

      "Most probably you're not that bright after all."

      You can't be serious with that statement. Here, let me correct it for you: 'It's most probable you're not that bright after all.'

      "Google yourself the meaning of consensual and raped."

      Again, why are you attempting to mirror the tactics I used to highlight your inanity? My success in demeaning your intelligence is entirely contextual. You're attempting to throw the same sort of quips back at me, but they're not landing. Statutory rape refers to an adult (in this case Jimmy Page) having sex with someone under the legal age limit (the 14 year old Lori Maddox.)

      "You do realize that only you and your buffon brigade are trying to rant over the same bullshit that everyone knows such as plagiarism."

      I have a buffoon brigade now? I guess it's better than your Led Zeppelin Dick Rider Cult. You got some of Jimmy Pages figurative spunk on your chin, wipe that off sparky.

      "A fucking lapsteel is much easier to play than a guitar with a bow fuck head."

      You play instruments? You haven't displayed even the slightest clue that you are knowledgeable in the performance of a musical instrument. If you honestly think the unorthodox method of bowing a guitar requires more foresight than a lapsteel, then you're fucking retarded. Playing the guitar like a violin isn't impressive in the slightest, not the way Jimmy Page did. All doped out on heroin, making whiney guitar noise that impresses idiots like you who have absolutely zero experience with music theory.

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    11. "I'm sure you did not know that as these while you must be too busy drinking your dad's cum till you lost all the light."

      If you're gonna stoop to the juvenile level, at least make the insults coherent and funny. But you appear to lack even the most rudimentary comprehension of comedy....and music.....and basic English.....so maybe that's asking too much.

      "Let me give you an advise, why don't you quit your current job then dig a 6 feet deep hole and bury yourself with your bullshits."

      Advise is a verb. I believe what you intended to use was the noun 'advice,' or perhaps 'piece of advice' since you throw an 'an' in there. If you think I'm going to take advice from someone too slow-witted to comprehend the difference between 'advice' and 'advise,' you're sourly advised, chief.

      "That solves everything. Indeed no one give a fuck about your opinion gollum if you did not post your rants on the internet."

      No one gives a fuck besides all of YOU jackasses responding with vehement rage, personally offended someone doesn't share the same, shitty taste.

      "If you were that afraid to get screwed, why did you make a page with the comment option?"

      I left the comment option to give myself the opportunity to verbally rape plebeian sheep such as yourself. Debunking the collective stupidity of the Led Zeppelin cult is like a guilty pleasure. It may even be funner than making fun of the band itself.

      "Again, FUCK YOU! This time, there's no need for you to reply. You already lost before you started."

      Your lack of self-awareness is astounding. You are correct for once, however; there is no need for me to reply. I can simply delete every single post you make. But I prefer to leave it up, just to further prove my point that most Led Zeppelin fans are fucking idiots that believe in hype over substance.

      I also love how you didn't respond to a single thing I posted to you. You even ignore the part where I broke character and gave Led Zeppelin credit, then divulged this blog is hyperbolic satire. I figured "This guy seems like a fucking tool, I'll have to meet him 99% of the way instead of going half-way." But that didn't even work. Thanks for proving the point I was trying to make in my article, dipshit.

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    12. Hm lets see "Advise is a verb. I believe what you intended to use was the noun 'advice,' or perhaps 'piece of advice' since you throw an 'an' in there". Advise and advice are the same retard. Feel free to check it yourself. "Let me give you an advise" is allowed. Again, check all you want who's right. Next time, when you try so hard to correct someone who is clearly more superior than you, be sure your argument is valid. "I left the comment option to give myself the opportunity to verbally rape plebeian sheep such as yourself. Debunking the collective stupidity of the Led Zeppelin cult is like a guilty pleasure. It may even be funner than making fun of the band itself."So thats your excuse? How sad.I don't see any other points you provide rather than plagiarism. The rest of the points are your own opinions not facts. I gave you a lot of facts but you just cant seem to grasp it at all.

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    13. You can't be serious thinking you're the only jackass who knows how to play a few instruments eh? Most people do, but they don't create a 38 minutes overload crap thinking its better than what a legendary guitarist can do. "Here, let me correct it for you: 'It's most probable you're not that bright after all.' Since you love to correct others, why don't i correct you now, I'm not sure how you came up with the word 'probable'. its supposed to by 'probably' shithead. Well done, trying to correct others when you,yourself cant even spell basic words. Next time, when you try to correct others, make sure your own sentence has no errors numbskull.

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    14. You're honestly completely unaware of the existence of the word "probable?"

      prob·a·ble
      ˈpräbəbəl/
      adjective
      adjective: probable

      1.
      likely to be the case or to happen.
      "it is probable that the economic situation will deteriorate further"
      synonyms: likely, most likely, odds-on, expected, anticipated, predictable, foreseeable, ten to one; More
      informalin the cards, a good/fair/reasonable bet
      "a recurrence of the symptoms is probable"
      antonyms: unlikely

      noun
      noun: probable; plural noun: probables

      1.
      a person who is likely to become or do something, esp. one who is likely to be chosen for a team.
      "Merson and Wright are probables"

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    15. Hm lets see "Advise is a verb. I believe what you intended to use was the noun 'advice,' or perhaps 'piece of advice' since you throw an 'an' in there". Advise and advice are the same retard. Feel free to check it yourself. "Let me give you an advise" is allowed.

      Advise exists solely to describe the act of giving someone advice. You can advise someone, you can give someone an advise. That is grammatically incorrect. You can give someone advice, but you can't give some an advice, that is also grammatically incorrect. In conclusion, you're a fucking retard.


      "Again, check all you want who's right. Next time, when you try so hard to correct someone who is clearly more superior than you, be sure your argument is valid."

      Dude.....you have to be a troll. I simply can't believe you're this fucking retarded. To be so arrogant and cocky whilst simultaneously debunking yourself further with every word.

      "So thats your excuse? How sad.I don't see any other points you provide rather than plagiarism."

      1. Shrill, whiney vocals.
      2. Sloppy, disjointed guitar.
      3. Bass too low in the mix.
      4. Repetitive songs that meander for too long.
      5. A seemingly absent ability of taking songs on journeys beyond one or two simplistic riffs
      6. A complete lack of musical dynamics executed in a single composition.
      7. Consistently missed notes during guitar solos.
      8. Drugged out, spacey live shows.
      9. Unnecessary ration of song length to monotonous execution.
      10. Boring, simplistic song structures.
      11. Consistently shallow lyrics.
      12. Over hyped by the media and shitty, brain dead cult of followers who personally attack people for peripherally attacking something they enjoy.
      13. The cockiness of the band members.
      14. And yes, plagiarism.
      15. The fact they illegally steal music but then sued another band for legally parodying their song.
      16. Their shitty fucking fans.

      The rest of the points are your own opinions not facts. I gave you a lot of facts but you just cant seem to grasp it at all.

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    16. Looks like you actually managed to educate yourself. Do you really think i would not know the word probable? Its my own way to find out whether a person has any intelligence or not. Looks like you searched in Google all those big words you used in your comments. Those 15 reasons you gave except for plagiarism are your own opinions not FACTS. When all of your reasons are facts, then we will talk. For now, strive to get a career to pay your bills.

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    17. "Do you really think i would not know the word probable?"

      If I really thought that, would I have stressed this question before posting the definition?
      You're honestly completely unaware of the existence of the word "probable?"

      "Looks like you searched in Google all those big words you used in your comments."

      I assure you, I didn't google the 'big words' I'm using. I've always enjoyed writing, and expanded my vocabulary throughout the years. I got a scholarship for my MCAS test, mother fucka. I ain't no thesaurus abuser....I use that shit supplementally, bro. I sharpen my mind with it, not resort to it in the midst of an argument as a fallback.

      "Those 15 reasons you gave except for plagiarism are your own opinions not FACTS."

      "When all of your reasons are facts, then we will talk."

      What do you mean, we'll talk? You got a walkie talkie you can mail me, buddy? I love the ego boost you give me when you derail your own argument before I get a chance to retort, really. I was starting to think I was actually getting dumber from all the pot I smoke, but you've reinforced my own unwarranted admiration of my vocabularic acrobats.

      " For now, strive to get a career to pay your bills."

      And what do you mean strive to get a career? You don't know shit about me beyond this blog I'm writing. I could be a CEO of my own business, or I could be a badass real-estate agent / double agent. (Like a spy that pretends to be a real estate agent, garnering lucrative income from both profit streams.) I could be getting paid by older ladies to tongue their fart box. YOUR MOM could be paying me to tongue HER fart box, bro.

      So before making unwarranted personal accusations at someone because you merely disagree with their opinions, try to sharpen your wit a bit before making a complete jackass of yourself with every fucking statement you make. Stop having your period all over the place, too. It's unbecoming.

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    18. So full of yourself. You claimed you got a scholarship yet you don't know the meaning of "When all of your reasons are facts, then we will talk." Like a spy? Are you on meth?

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    19. I'm not full of myself at all, faggot. I'm confident in my opinions and my ability to articulate them. I am confident in my music abilities, both performance and composition. And I'm confident in YOUR ability to consistently make a fool of yourself before I even respond.

      "You claimed you got a scholarship yet you don't know the meaning of "When all of your reasons are facts, then we will talk." "

      I got a scholarship, used it and then dropped out of college. See?
      http://sweetfunkyfreedom.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-i-dropped-out-of-college-sweet.html
      I'm not using these statements to brag, you fucking idiot. I'm using them as bullet-points as I systematically and unequivocally tear down every feeble attempt you make at......wait, what exactly ARE you trying to do here? Are you trying to prove to us that Led Zeppelin is the best band ever? Are you trying to prove to yourself that your taste isn't literally manufactured by public opinion and media outlets? Are you trying to reinforce your confidence in your own intellectual prowess by scolding people who think differently than you? I really don't get what you're trying to accomplish here.

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    20. See thats what i meant when you lack basic knowledge.

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  36. Led Zeppelin are safe Rock band that the mindless masses can handle!!!! it appears cool to like Zeppelin, the mainstream doesent like complex or intresting music and Zeppelin were none of those. Jimmy Page played like a robot without much feelin he had some good riffs and some pretty lame riffs. The riff to Kashmir is fucking repetitive the song itself is boring to be honest. Zeppelin were good no doubt about it but how fucking arrogant to put them above the other great bands of that era doing that is laughable.

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    1. Exactly. This guy gets it. There are so many amazing bands from that era hundreds, likely even thousands globally. To marginalize the collective efforts of countless musicians in favor of ONE BAND is absurd and ignorant. Zeppelin fans are so god damn arrogant, they refuse to acknowledge other bands exist on the same plane as their precious Zep.

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    2. Acknowledge what shithead? I guess after all its pointless trying to explain to someone who missed the big picture. Other bands exist,but they are not on the same league as them.

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    3. Oh yes i do get it first of all Zeppelin didnt invent heavy rock it was around one or two years before so that takes care of that. Second other bands are not in the same league as Zeppelin!!!!! you are right these other bands are above them on every level especially creating their own material and not stealing. Here is a list of bands better than Zep

      1. The Beatles
      2. Rolling Stones
      3. Black Sabbath
      4. The Who
      5. Deep Purple
      6. Pink Floyd
      7. Allman Brothers
      8. Free (Paul Rodgers) listen to Free to see how heavy Blues Rock should sound, oh yah they wrote like %95 percent of their stuff
      9. Yes

      Now when you say same league im gonna laugh if you are talking about musicianship because that would mean you are crazy enough to believe Zeppelin are the best at what they do. Well i hate to inform you of this but none of those guys rank number at what they do. First the vocals Robert Plant with his screaming, shreiking and oversinging, adlibs gets annoying fast he sounded good when he refrained from doing that. He didnt have a rich deep tone or that special quality that Paul Rodgers, Roger Daltry, Daryl Hall & Peter Cetera just to name a few. Plant is Zeppelins weakest link!!! how about bass/keyboard man John Paul Jones sure he was solid but he was often drowned out Entwhistle, Squire, Bruce have him beat. Jimmy Page great guitar player for sure but often played sloppy and somewhat robotic is he better than Beck, Hendrix, Clapton, Allman, Blackmore, Iommi not at all. Actually Tony Iommi is the king of the riffs. How about John Bonham one of the greatest rock drummers?? Yes one of the greatest drummers??? No. There are countless Jazz drummers better i dont even need to mention names. As far as better Rock and Prog Rock drummers Moon, Pace, Palmer, Bruford have him beat. Bonham hit the drums hard big fuckin deal he is actually boring to listen to on the drums. Hell listen to Don Brewer from Grand Funk there is a man who loves what he is doing.

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    4. Well if thats the case, who do you think invented hard rock? The only bands i agree in your list are The beatles, The stones and The who as they are better than Zep. The so called 'screaming' by Plant is actually better than those singers you listed except for Roger daltry. When you said Paul is better than Plant, i can't help but bursted out laughing. Paul did not even hit those high notes when he tour with Queen after Freddie Mercury passed away. Robert Plant is the only male rocker who is able to compete with Mercury. Not to mention Mercury has 4 octaves. You do the math. Sure, Entwistle is maybe a better bassist than Jones, but overall John is the better musician. For Jimmy page's case, there are only 2 guitarists that are better than him which is Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clpaton. The others are great but not as good as Page. You must be joking. Tomy Iommi king of riffs? Hell i think Brian May can even fight with him evenly at a concert. The real king of riffs are Jimi hendrix and Jimmy page. Just look at their rankings at any guitar magazines. Another thing, John Bonham a great drummer? He's the best. Maybe Moon and Buddy Rich is even with him. The others are geniuses but they are lacking something Bonzo has. Bonzo is known for his feel for the groove. All those great drummers you listed might have the speed or power, but all of them lacked what Bonzo has. Whenever any drummer does any solo's, they are fast and powerful, but there's no feeling at all. If you are curious who's better, why don't you checked out Moby dick live. There you will see why he's the best.

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    5. This just proves how shallow your thought process is. A perfect look into the mind of a typical, mindless Zeppelin fan. Literally regurgitating exactly what Guitar Magazines and VH1 tells him. No knowledge of Al Di Meola or Django Reinhardt or anything besides the same 10 bands every mainstream publication talks about. Literally thousands of bands and artists to be discovered, and this cock sucker doesn't even research beyond the most obvious examples of classic rock. Do you listen to music outside of the radio, bro? Holy fuck you're dumb.

      Seriously, I'm going to level with you here....you intrigue the fuck out of me. You are like the perfect entity to argue with. AND YOU EVEN CALL YOURSELF LED ZEPPELIN. I get to verbally kick the shit out of "led zeppelin," proving "led zeppelin" wrong every step of the way. You're the caricature of everything I stand against on this blog, the fucking embodiment of what my hatred is directed towards.

      You are literally the perfect person to comment on this blog, bro. Please, by all means, go read my other articles and add your shitty opinions there as well.

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    6. Oh so now i'm stating facts and you're saying i'm regurgitating what those magazines said?? Is there a limit to stupidity? No thanks, i would rather not waste my time commenting on your other shitty articles.

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    7. I'll give you 10% of my ad-revenue to comment on all my articles. I assure you....it's a lucrative income. Only two conditions....

      1. You have to continue to use the name 'led zeppelin'
      2. You have to maintain your complete lack of self-awareness and the delusion you're somehow winning arguments you are actually invalidating yourself out of.

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  37. "How many times do i have to explain to retards the meaning of overrated? You just proved retardacy has no boundaries. But rest assured, i'm sure your prince charming will come rescue his damsel in distress. Well you can always google it if you do not know what that means."

    The irony here is so pungent it's stinging my eyes to read everything you type. What exactly are you suggesting I can't understand, here? What necessitates a Google search on my end? You've done nothing but make an idiot of yourself with every post you make. You missed the point of the article, missed the point of every single response I've made, ignored the questions I personally posed to you, and made a flacicd attempt at mirroring insults I was using on you. You've failed verbally and intellectually at every single turn in this argument, and yet you're actually suggesting that only do I need to conduct a Google search to understand your incoherent half-witted ramblings, but also that I require assistance in dismantling your scatter-brained musings? How the fuck is this other person 'coming to my rescue' when I've handily destroyed everything you have to say? Get the fuck out of here. Neither of us even needed to respond for you to lose the argument - you lost it yourself.

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    1. You touched a soft spot all right.........Jimmy Pages prostate with your tongue.

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    2. I never knew drinking your dad's cum did not work for your brain.

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    3. It's all right, dude. Clearly your brain DID get quite messed up in light of your rampant sucking of your fathers dick, and your incessant ingestion of his ejaculate. But you're on your way to recovery. The first step is for you to realize your mistake - namely sucking your dads dick and swallowing his creamy load. Rectify the situation by abstaining from your disgusting desires, led zeppelin. YOU CAN DO IT, BRO. I FUCKING KNOW YOU CAN. We're all rooting for you, led zeppelin! You STOP sucking that dick! YOU STOP SUCKING THAT DICK AND YOU GO TO THE FUCKING TOP OF RETARD MOUNTAIN!

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  38. "When i said everyone has their own opinion, it doesn't mean one has to rant their bullshit on the internet like you."

    So you find it better to seek out opinions you disagree with and personally attack that person? You ranting YOUR bullshit PERSONALLY at someone is somehow superior to me expressing dislike for a popular music artist? Strong logic, dickhead.

    "For example, if i do not like a certain artist, do i spread bullshit of them in the internet?"


    "If plagiarism is your sole excuse, then you're really pathetic."

    I've stated many reasons why I dislike Led Zeppelin throughout my article, and dozens more in the comments section responding to jackasses like you. You literally read through ALL OF THAT SHIT and the only thing you walked away with was this? "He only dislikes them for stealing riffs and lyrics." You're resoundingly the dumbest person that's commented on this article so far. Every shitty insult you huck at the wall doesn't stick. And then like clockwork, each time your shitty insult misses the mark you follow it up with something that directly describes your own failure in the previous sentence.

    STATEMENT: If plagiarism is your only excuse
    FOLLOW-UP: then you're really pathetic
    EXPLANATION: You're too indoctrinated by hype to even comprehend the numerous instances (or in your words, 'excuses') that me and others provided to expand on our dislike of Led Zeppelin. The fact you missed all of these and only understood the plagiarism gripe is indication, really, that you really are really pathetic.

    "Don't tell me singers nowadays do not plagiarise."

    Singing is literally the LEAST plagiarized aspect of music. Technically, only LYRICS or MELODIES can be plagiarized, but I realize you're not working with a full deck of cards, so in an effort of magnanimous futility I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there and explain. The art of singing itself is pretty much impossible to plagiarize. Melody lines (aka melodic structure of a lyric) and the lyrics themselves CAN be plagiarized, which is what Robert Plant did frequently. Singers do NOT plagiarize these days, because it would be far too easy to get caught stealing lyrics.

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    1. "Repetitive? As if those bands you listed that are better aren't. When a band can create ACTUAL riffs like Zeppelin unlike yours, then they might someday be in their league."

      Heavy Horses, the song by Jethro Tull goes more places in 8 minutes than Led Zeppelin did on entire albums.

      "I am not going to waste my time trying to explain to a fool who's full of himself."

      Great excuse for not being able to elaborate further, brah. Don't try to mask your inability to articulate your thoughts as if it's a fruitless endeavor. I'm willing to have amicable discussions on the topic of Led Zeppelin with people, but not when they're too idiotic to even expound their viewpoints.

      "At least those bands you listed did not boastfully say they are better than Zep. If Led truly suck, why are they often rated among the greatest artist in many magazines not to mention some of their songs are in the Hall of Fame."

      Because jackasses like yourself buy into hype and marketing, judging bands on their success vs. the actual artistic expression of musical performance and composition. If plagiarizing one persons lyrics and singing them over another persons riffs is more impressive to you than a self-taught 24 year old composing a 38 minute song, recording the entire thing in his home studio on various instruments in the span of two weeks than I don't want you listening to my music or even enjoying it.

      "I doubt your "masterpiece" of 38 minutes shit is going into the Hall of Fame anytime soon."

      Re-read the article. I never claimed my music is going into the Hall of Fame. I'm merely using it to backup my opinion. It showcases my ability to coherently understand and utilize music theory, giving my opinions more weight and substance. If you can't appreciate the musicianship and talent required to accomplish that task then Led Zeppelin is the PERFECT band to turn your brain off to and blindly praise. "If everyone else is saying it, it must be right!" But it only proves you have no idea what goes into music, how it is made, or have any ability to judge it beyond what popular opinion dictates. Thus, you're retarded and out of your element, Donny.

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    2. You said technically Lyrics and Melodies can be stolen. Thats what Zep did. they did not steal an entire song. They merely took parts of the lyrics and made it into another song. Get that into you head. For your "symphony" which you created in 2 weeks, i remembered you said to another user its better than Jimmy Page's work. Jimmy page's work are in the hall of fame. Refer to your own comments. Are you that dumb? "Because jackasses like yourself buy into hype and marketing, judging bands on their success vs. the actual artistic expression of musical performance and composition". Let me get this into your brain once more. Real talent vs autone talent. You be the judge. Or who knows, maybe you might be going for those autotuned talent right? That's why there are people like you who can't even differentiate good and bad. I thinks its way better for you to say " I do not want anyone to listen to my music". Why? It bleeds a person ears.

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    3. "You said technically Lyrics and Melodies can be stolen. Thats what Zep did. they did not steal an entire song."

      So because they only stole PARTS of a song, that makes it all right? In your book it's completely fine for Led Zeppelin to TAKE CREDIT FOR WRITING OTHER PEOPLES STUFF? They literally took money out of impoverished blues musicians hands. THEY FUCKED OVER THEIR INFLUENCES; THEY LITERALLY STOLE MATERIAL AND MONEY FROM THEIR INFLUENCES.

      Here's a list of songs they stole.


      "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
      "Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
      "Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
      "Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
      "Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
      "Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
      "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
      "How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
      "In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
      "The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
      "Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
      "Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
      "Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
      "Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
      "White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
      "Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."

      As if this couldn't get any worse, there's a kicker. A band known as "Little Roger and the Goosebumps" made a parody of Stairway to Heaven called Stairway to Gilligans Island. Led Zeppelins lawyer, within 5 weeks, SUED them for plagiarism. They hypocrtically SUED SOMEONE over an obvious parody, despite the fact they themselves STOLE....not PARODIED, but outright STOLE....from 18 different songs.

      So in Zeppelins mind, it's completely fine for them to steal music from 18 different sources, but someone makes a parody (which, in accordance of copyright laws, is completely legal....just look at Weird Al) of one of their songs and they sue them. THE FUNNIEST PART is they STOLE THE MAIN PART OF STAIRWAY. They're suing someone for parodying a song THEY STOLE. It's absurd

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    4. Before you start to rant at someone, take your own sweet time to refer to your comments. It would make less of a fool out of you. In order for one to be accused of stealing an entire song, they have to take the original artist's music and lyrics ( change a little bit of the lyrics) to be called thieves. Most of their song which they plagiarize did not include any of the original artists music only lyrics. Is that all you can think of?

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    5. "Get that into you head."

      I don't quite understand why you continue to say things like this. I am very clearly stating my opinion and elaborately expounding on each one. I am also obviously far more educated on not just music composition, performance, and copyright law, but I'm actually MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THE VERY BAND YOU'RE DEFENDING. I know more about Zeppelin than you fucking do, yet you keep insinuating I'm having difficulty grasping these heady knowledge bombs you're dropping. You clearly don't understand 90% of what I respond to you with, and yet you still sit there and attempt to patronize me on my own blog as if I can't follow your horribly inaccurate and scatterbrained logic? You're delusional, bro.

      "For your "symphony" which you created in 2 weeks, i remembered you said to another user its better than Jimmy Page's work."

      Better is a subjective term. It's most assuredly more impressive and far more ambitious, and most musicians would agree it's quite the accomplishment.

      "Jimmy page's work are in the hall of fame. Refer to your own comments. Are you that dumb?"

      I myself have stated numerous times in the article, in responses to others, and in responses DIRECTED AT YOU....I am well aware of Led Zeppelins success. I am well aware of their triumphs, their adoration globally, the accolades heaped at their feet. THE POINT OF THIS VERY ARTICLE is that despite them having attained this level of success and notoriety, their delusional fan base ARE SO FUCKING GREEDY they can't fathom or comprehend anyone not liking the band. It's borderline frightening how incessant you fucking idiots attempt to defend this band, as if it's even necessary for you to take up arms in the first place. If Jimmy Page is in the Hall of Fame, his band is revered worldwide, and, according to you, some dumb asshole on the internet is talking shit....WHY DO YOU CARE? Why does it matter? If my opinion doesn't matter, why are you wasting your time making a fool of yourself attempting to outsmart me? You literally trip over yourself every sentence you write, and don't even realize it. It's sad.

      "Let me get this into your brain once more. Real talent vs autone talent."

      Autone talent? What the hell is autone talent? Are you referring to AUTO TUNE? Do you even know what AUTO TUNE is?

      "You be the judge. Or who knows, maybe you might be going for those autotuned talent right?"

      Clearly by the bands I listed as better than Zeppelin in my article, I am certainly NOT in favor of autotune, especially considering the musicians and bands I listed possess more talent, both as musicians and as composers, than Led Zeppelin. So why would I support autotune if even Led Zeppelin isn't up to my standards? If anything, you could suggest I just like "fushion jazz" and "technical death metal," not the other way around. Every single attempt you've made at debasing my opinions fails miserably and blows up back in your face. How can you literally cancel yourself out with such consistency and accuracy?

      "That's why there are people like you who can't even differentiate good and bad. I thinks its way better for you to say " I do not want anyone to listen to my music". Why? It bleeds a person ears."

      What? Is English your first language buddy? Because you sure as hell don't know how to properly use it.

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    6. You mind naming a few of musicians who would praise you work if they heard your piece?Exactly, NONE. Its funny seeing how a person like you has to use spelling error another person made to use it as a debating material.

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    7. I'm not gonna bring other people into this. I've played plenty of music festivals, and have a solid reputation as a great lead guitarist, including from musicians who have music in Corona commercials. But I'm not gonna swing my dick out my pants and indite those people into this trivial debate, that would be unbecoming.

      As of now, the song in question has been 'favorited' by 87 people. Soundcloud is a community of musicians. Here is what some of them had to say about the track, chosen from the excess of 400 comments...

      Yea, I even posted some of the people who didn't like the track. I figured you needed some help, you're drowning and I want to string you along as long as possible. I also made a grammatical ERROR of my own in one of my responses to you. If you can find it and post it here, I'll reward you by taking this article down so it doesn't keep you awake at night any longer. Deal? It's like a treasure hunt! On your mark....get set......RETARDED!

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    8. "Jon of the Shred was a legendary shredder his fingers calloused and bloodied he emerged from the studio axe in hand and spirits high"
      "i believe the guitar is singing to me, very well produced my friend!"
      "MAD guitar skills man. The fact you composed all of this is well impressive. You have talent my friend"
      "Really love the vibe of the track. The instrumentation and production sound good."
      "dude this is insane! straight shred man you have alot of talent"
      "insane compsition, in a good way. nice job seeing it through to completion. takes me back to oldschool metal ballads. nice job."
      "This is really deep man! Great symphonic stuff here! Dig it!"
      "Just from the start i can say great arrange. but the bass sticks out a bit. In general the mixing lacks a bit. The drums are kinda thin as well. Compression glues thing together. ;) will keep on enjoying it. great composition!"
      "Great guitar sound! I like this track. Very inspiring and nice listen to. Thanks for sharing this."
      "damn I love this is like heavy metal made with midi drums, killer riffs my man"
      "Clearly quite alot of musical talent is this track... I think the drums could be abit more present in the mix though"
      "they should put this song on guitar hero! so much people would love it"
      "wow for computerized drums i cant tell. a masterpiece my man great job"
      "dude sweet guitar riffs what an epic progressive track almost reminds me of King Crimson:) my fav"
      " this is what the game has been missing! those atmosperic references and cool transitions. its a lot to take in man but you cracked it"
      " I love this! The melodies are so sick!"
      " lazulos retro zenek, hat az igen, csodalatos..hahaha nem igazan szeretem de hat jol van.ez a rock nem az en vonalam"
      "wow this truly is the great and best song in the world! epic stuff!"

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    9. Hey dead brain, i'm not going to waste my time in your silly game. You can always play it yourself if you want attention that badly. Are those real comments or its all yours but different accounts? Good riddance. I'm done here.

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    10. No bro, just stay! Keep making me your intellectual bitch, clearly everyone is intent on seeing you continue your verbal onslaught of unrelenting justice and perpetual Led Zeppelin soaked triumph. CRUSH THE NONBELIEVERS! BATHE IN THEIR BLOOD! VIVA LA ZEPPELINO!

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  39. "Before you start to rant at someone, take your own sweet time to refer to your comments. It would make less of a fool out of you."

    Dude, you're so off-base. I'm not ranting at anyone, I'm ranting on a blog you personally chose to view. YOU are the one ranting AT ME because you disagree with someone I typed over a year ago. You gained peripheral access to this on your own accord, and then proceeded to make a fucking idiot of yourself at every turn, with every sentence. You debased your own validity in this argument word by word at some points. And still, with absolutely zero self-awareness, you frequently toss these accusations my way, boldly claiming I'm "dumb" or failing to understand your childish remarks. It hurts my brain, I can't tell if you're a fucking MASTER troll or just that stupid.

    "In order for one to be accused of stealing an entire song, they have to take the original artist's music and lyrics ( change a little bit of the lyrics) to be called thieves."

    They have instances in their music in which they stole two different peoples work and threw them together to make one song. To me, that's even LAZIER and LESS INSPIRED than just doing a fucking cover track and playing it stylistically different! Deep Purples first album is FULL of covers, but at least they had the common courtesy to give credit to the original composers. They didn't pretend to write the songs themselves.

    ZEPPELIN GOT SUED FOR THIS. It isn't something you can shrug off. It's morally disgusting for a musician to willingly steal another musicians work and take credit for it. I bet if someone stole a song from Led Zeppelin you'd be ripshit and bombarding them with awkwardly conceived emails, just like you're doing here.

    "Most of their song which they plagiarize did not include any of the original artists music only lyrics. Is that all you can think of?"

    Is that all I can think of? In my various responses to you, I have literally pointed out dozens of flaws in your logic, countless mistakes in your grammar and spelling, dozens of instances of you showcasing a complete ignorance in copyright law, musical composition, musical performance...and it all flew right over your head like a blimp.

    Get it? Because zeppelin means blimp, and....oh, never mind....

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    2. Don't talk about yourself like that, led zeppelin. It's unbecoming of the most overrated band in existence to talk ill of themselves, really. Which member of led zeppelin is posting now? Am I to believe all three of the remaining members are huddled around a computer monitor in Birmingham, the ghost of John Bonham translucently hovering behind them, furrowed brows all, beads of sweat lining their wrinkled faces as they feverishly type horribly articulated folderol in exaggerated disdain for someone not enjoying their trite musical meanderings?

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    3. Why are uneducated retards always using other people username in a debate? You amuse me genius.

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    4. The amount of amusement you provide me was nearly infinite before, but knowing YOU for some reason find this amusing as well makes the entire experience hilariously more amusing. Your amusement further amuses my amusement. You keep it classy, bro. You keep it fresh. And you keep it retarded. DO YOU, bro. DO YOU.

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  40. Those drummers did not lack something Bonham was boring he hit the drums hard!!!!! Paice, Appice, Moon, Rich, Cobham, Palmer all way better!!!! and you say there are only 2 guitarists better than Page LOL there are tons better i listed some and you laugh when i say Iommi is king of the riffs!!! add em up man add up Zeppelin's lame riffs to Sabbaths and see who comes out ahead. John Paul Jones was a lame keyboard player you know it. Plant screamed and whailed instead of humbling singing who cares about octaves. Do you know who is known as having the greatest rock voice the answer is Paul Rogers he has a great tone, better control of his voice and he has a more manly tone. Ian Gillan trumps Plant listen to Child In Time to hear how screaming is done. Zeppelin were the rip off kings they werent original or creative enough so they stole plain and simple. Heavy plodding Blues Rock isnt exactly groundbreaking stuff!!!!! if Zeppelin were forced to try anything Progressive they would choke hard. They did not have the musicianship of King Crimson or Yes and E,L,P. Kashmir is the most boring repetitive riff i have ever heard, the solo in Heartbreaker is terrible, the riff for The Ocean is lame, the guitar tone for Whole Lotta Love sounds like shit. Try opening your mind to some more intresting and original bands man. Zeppelin is played

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    2. I don't recall talking to you brain dead. Why don't you go back to your studio and create more crappy music?

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    3. You've responded a number of times, essentially "talking" to me for an extensive period of time. You're telling me you don't recall this? And then you go on to call me brain dead?

      You're so fucking retarded I am forced to respond to you in questions. Your stupidity seems simultaneously counterfeit and sincere, calculated and unintentional. It's a mind fuck looking into such a undeveloped mind. Your ignorance is fascinating, led zepplin.

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    4. Man did you really lost your fucking mind after fucking your dad?? I'm talking to anonymous, not you squirt face!

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    5. You can't "lost" your fucking mind. You can LOSE your mind, so that it is then LOST. Which leads me to believe you actually DON'T understand the difference between "probably" and "probable." I really hope you never procreate.

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    6. Wow just one alphabet is different and you think i'm as dumb as you? For one moment, look at your keyboard. The alphabet "T" and "E" are close together, therefore i made a simple mistake.

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  41. haha Troll Alert ,fuck that is that all you can come up with!!!!! is your taste in music that generic??? have you ever listened to The Van Der Graaf Generator, or the first King Crimson album or Yes Close To The Edge??? you need to broaden those horizons some of the Prog stuff is miles above Zeppelin. Those bands were ambitious and made more thought provoking music. Forget the radio forget what you have read. Open your mind. I put Zeppelin away back in 2007 when i discovered better and more intresting bands. Terry Kath, Duane Allman, Richie Blackmore played with more fire and drive than your precious Jimmy Page, hell Rik Emmit of Triumph could out shred Page so can Alex Leifson. Listen to the first Lucifers Friend album 1970. What about Chicago's first album Chicago Transit Authoirty only one cover song. Zeppelin should be remembered as a good band they were far from perfect. Sweet Funky Freedom knows whats up and has laid it all out for you people but you all suffer from blind worship!!!! building up this glorified cover band to something they werent. Zeppelin has chemistry yah so did every other great band!!!!

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    2. Heard those bands and honestly, they can't be compared to Zeppelin. Period. And to brain dead, remember to drink as much cum from your dad.

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    3. You have ear problems my man!!!! lets take lyrics Steely Dan's songwriting is some of the most witty, creative and excellent shit to come out of the classic rock era. I know it requires thought unlike Zeppelin's childish lyrics. Procol Harum ever listen to them besides the two radio hits??? once again a band with better songwriting. I can go on and on man The Who, Pete Townsend could outwrite and did outwrite every Zeppelin member. Quadrophenia alone!!! Elton John and Bernie Taupin the list goes on man. Music wise Grand Funk had more power and they were a trio for the first five albums or so!!!! i will keep laying it on you. All you say is that you have heard those bands and they cant be compared to Zeppelin!!!! you make a statement like that and dont back it up with anything to prove your point. You obviously havent listened to those bands enough this isnt high school anymore just because Zeppelin is viewed as cool doesent make them great.

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    4. There's nothing for me to prove. What i state are FACTS. I don't expect someone like you to agree with me. I guess we have to agree to disagree. You said Grand Funk were a trio for the first five albums? What makes you think Led are any different? I think you have bad taste in music Anonymous. Led split up at 1980 due to the drummer's death,but till this day, they are still arguably the greatest rock band of all time and one of the greatest band of all time. I used to hate rock and hard metal a few years back until one day i started hearing The Beatles and from there is started to find out more of pop and then rock. Let me tell you this, i never regret one bit at all. All those bands you listed that you think are better,aren't. They are all good in their own way by the way. I'm sure they are amongst the greatest rock bands of all time.

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    5. Your idiocy is like a coursing river; unrelenting, constantly flowing.

      "There's nothing for me to prove. What i state are FACTS."

      You have absolutely zero knowledge about music beyond what you've read in magazines and on internet websites. It is befuddling that you simply can't come to terms with your desperate lack of knowledge and resounding irrelevance in this conversation.

      "I don't expect someone like you to agree with me."

      What do you mean, "Someone like you" when you refer to Anonymous? Someone sharing an opinion on the internet you disagree with? Someone actually validating their arguments through exposition?

      "You said Grand Funk were a trio for the first five albums? What makes you think Led are any different?"

      Led had four members. 'Power-trio' is a term used to describe bands with three members. Led Zeppelin had four. Thus, they were never a power-trio, you fucking clueless idiot.

      "I think you have bad taste in music Anonymous."

      That's not how you win arguments, dipshit. You're attacking people for expressing their opinions, then you start citing popular opinion as fact, all the while staggering through your poorly thought-out retorts that make no sense.

      "Led split up at 1980 due to the drummer's death,but till this day, they are still arguably the greatest rock band of all time and one of the greatest band of all time."

      That's YOUR opinion, you tool. No one is telling you you have a bad-taste for having this opinion...it's the popular opinion. Me and anonymous just happen to have OUR OWN OPINIONS. So jump off our dicks and let us express those opinions without getting a dozen more poorly typed paragraphs hurled at us. You only further solidify your status as an illiterate jackass every time you post here.

      "I used to hate rock and hard metal a few years back until one day i started hearing The Beatles and from there is started to find out more of pop and then rock."

      What did you listen while you hated rock and metal? ABBA? Grunge? I bet it's something terrible.

      "All those bands you listed that you think are better,aren't. They are all good in their own way by the way. I'm sure they are amongst the greatest rock bands of all time."

      What a relief. Thank god the mighty retard "led zeppelin" has given this thorough and definitive explanation on how dozens of bands all fall short of the lofty heights occupied by Led Zeppelin and their sophomoric, plagiarized Hobbit blues. It's relieving to know that "you're sure they are amongst the greatest rock bands of all time," though. What a relief that is. Did you read that in a guitar magazine, faggot?

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    6. I don't recall saying Led are a power trio band. I could be referring to those albums they accomplished to create together just like Grand Funk,pea brain. Popular opinion and facts are two completely different things.Reread my paragraph again, and this time, understand what others mean. "Led split up at 1980 due to the drummer's death,but till this day, they are still arguably the greatest rock band of all time and one of the greatest band of all time." Those are true by the way. They are indeed one of the greatest bands of all time. I''m shocked a simple musician like you don't even know that. If you have a chance to ask those 'bands' you think are much better than Zep, ask them whether Led is one of the greatest bands of all time. "What did you listen while you hated rock and metal? ABBA? Grunge? I bet it's something terrible." At least those legendary bands i listened to have great guitar riffs,if you get what i mean. 'What a relief. Thank god the mighty retard "led zeppelin" has given this thorough and definitive explanation on how dozens of bands all fall short of the lofty heights occupied by Led Zeppelin and their sophomoric, plagiarized Hobbit blues. It's relieving to know that "you're sure they are amongst the greatest rock bands of all time," though. What a relief that is. Did you read that in a guitar magazine, faggot?' The reason i wrote that is to prevent me from offending those great musicians. Learn you prick. You are able to construct proper sentence, but you lack the knowledge.

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    7. "I don't recall saying Led are a power trio band."

      That's because you have absolutely no grasp of English. The very language you rape with each sentence is beyond your full comprehension.

      "I could be referring to those albums they accomplished to create together just like Grand Funk,pea brain."

      You're gonna call me a pea brain for failing to follow your misworded bullshit? You're literally failing at adhering to the rules of proper grammar and spelling. Let me fill you in on something, led zeppelin. I completely understand the points you're failing to get across, bro. But for the sake of exaggerating your inadequacy in speech, I intentionally highlight the flaws in your logic by asking you to re-explain yourself.

      "Popular opinion and facts are two completely different things."

      That they are. It's a shame you can't differentiate between the two.

      "Reread my paragraph again, and this time, understand what others mean."

      Listen, this paragraph is already hurting my brain to read. I'm not gonna go re-read your misconstrued ramblings a second time willingly. One run through is good enough for me.

      "At least those legendary bands i listened to have great guitar riffs,if you get what i mean."

      Right, because Helloween, Gamma Ray, Savatage, Mercyful Fate, King Diamond, Bal-Sagoth, Children of Bodom, Symphony-X, Fates Warning, Warlord, Umphrey's McGee, New Mastersounds, Grave Digger, Grim Reaper, and literally hundreds of others bands I listen to DON'T HAVE GREAT GUITAR RIFFS. They're just chop liver compared to Led Zeppelin, right? You close-minded fascist.

      "The reason i wrote that is to prevent me from offending those great musicians."

      "Learn you prick."

      Learn what, how to ignore retards like you? I might as well be feeding ducks in the park, the way I'm responding to you're faggoty, illiterate trolling ass.

      "You are able to construct proper sentence, but you lack the knowledge."

      The knowledge of what? Assimilating popular opinion in my brain as indisputable fact? Led Zeppelin are hacks. Get over it, and move on with your life. You're only giving me more ad revenue returning to my blog. Seriously, think about that for a second....


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    8. You do realize that you lost it in this comment right?"That's because you have absolutely no grasp of English. The very language you rape with each sentence is beyond your full comprehension." Did i even wrote, "Led Zeppelin are a trio band"?? If you know nothing about basic English, at least keep your mouth shut so that you don't embarrass yourself."Right, because Helloween, Gamma Ray, Savatage, Mercyful Fate, King Diamond, Bal-Sagoth, Children of Bodom, Symphony-X, Fates Warning, Warlord, Umphrey's McGee, New Mastersounds, Grave Digger, Grim Reaper, and literally hundreds of others bands I listen to DON'T HAVE GREAT GUITAR RIFFS. They're just chop liver compared to Led Zeppelin, right? You close-minded fascist." You just proved me right about everything i said about you. I did not say Those bands guitar riffs aren't great. i was referring to you 38 minutes crap. Get that now? "Learn what, how to ignore retards like you? I might as well be feeding ducks in the park, the way I'm responding to you're faggoty, illiterate trolling ass." This comment made me wonder whether are you even an adult.

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  42. No problem man ive realized Zeppelin were overrated or shall we say over hyped since 2007. Even in 2006 when i listened to them a lot i wasnt blown away. Zeppelin lovers are of the belief the Led can do no wrong they have a distorted sense of how good Zeppelin were. Being the music lover that i am people often ask me to name my favorite band. I reply are you kidding me how the hell can i pick a favorite when the late 60's and 70's were the best and most creative and richest time for music. Picking a favorite band is like picking a best friend when you have 10 great friends. Everyone offered something different, everyone had that something special. Led Zeppelin did not invent Hard Rock nor did they invent heavy blues rock. Why is Zeppelin more commercially successfull than Sabbath??? because Sabbath didnt care about commercial success Sabbath invented Doom metal. Sabbath wrote great tunes original tunes dark music that would scare some of the mindless masses. Lots of Zeppelins lyrics are so juvenile it leaves me flat their first album is all cover songs except two songs. It just blows me away that the Zep fans can just excuse away everything we point out and everything wrong the band did. Jimmy Page played the guitar with a fuckin violin bow!!! so fuckin what Jimi Hendrix played the guitar over his head and with his teeth!!! that is called being a jackass and showboating im not impressed with either. Richie Blackmore would blow Page out of the water, Blackmore had a better more meatier, nasty guitar tone better soloing ability he was just plain better. Ive given these fools countless example of players that were better than their precious Zeppelin but they refuse to accpet it. Go listen to Tarkus by E,L,P i would have liked to see Bonham drum that!!! or play some of Ian Paice's stuff. For fuck sake Carmine Appice was doing what Bonham did before Bonham. Want more i can keep going???

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  43. Let me use Chicago as an example, before you laugh we arent talking 1980's shit Chicago. We are talking 1969-1975 Chicago the band that release three double albums in a row (AMBITIOUS). A band with a great horn section a band with three excellent lead singers all better and more tolerable than Robert Plant. Fact is you wanna hear how high pitched singing should be done listen to Peter Cetera. Peter Cetera also had wicked bass lines, bass lines that stood out way more than John Paul Jones. Terry Kath is way more energetic on the guitar than Page. Please listen to Chicago Transit Authority-1969 to hear what i mean. That is just one example of one band that im telling you about, i can keep bringing it because i know my stuff. Ive been listening to music for thirty years and i discover new/old stuff almost everyday i have a ton of knowledge. Some of the best music is stuff you wont hear on the radio and since 2007 that is pretty much all i have been searching out plus album tracks. Songs by the mainstream Classic Rock bands that you never would hear on the radio. Im in a good position to say if Zeppelin is overrated and overhyped. You have to put in the time like i have to know what is out there and i can tell SWEET FUNKY FREEDOM has maybe done the same. People like he and i get frustrated as hell at you Zeppelin fans because we know you havent heard the best yet, but proclaim Zeppelin to be the best. That doesent make one bit of sense!!!!!

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    1. I don't see what's the connection Chicago released 3 double albums in a row. Led also did the same thing. Chicago are great by the way.No Fact is, the greatest rock singer all time is probably the late Freddie Mercury. No one till this day ever come as close to him except for Roy Orbinson. I don't think anyone would have the strength to sing while on their death bed like Freddie. Peter Cetera is a very influential bass player no doubt, but Jones gets my win.Why? If you know the song kashmir, you should know the orchestral effect was done by only one person. Last time i checked, a band covered that song ,and guess what, they need 1 keyboardist, 2 violinist, 2 trumpeter just to create the orchestral effect.Do you still think Jones is overrated or isn't that great? Yes you can keep on bringing up your stuffs, but i too,can bring facts to you. I'm also listening to music as long as you did and i know the amount of stuffs you know too.

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    2. There IS NO greatest singer of all-time. How can you not understand this? Freddie Mercury was exceptionally talented. So was Ronnie James Dio. So is Russell Allen, and Eric Adams, and Bruce Dickinson, and Geoff Tate, and Warren Haynes, and Bob Weir, and so was Jerry Garcia, and.......you get it? There are millions of singers world wide; there is no definitive BEST VOCALIST EVER. It's ignorant to claim such a thing exists beyond the realm of your own opinion. Freddie Mercury is the best singer of all time FOR YOU, sure, but don't go trying to cross opinion streams with someone else, you fag.

      Notice how all the people that AREN'T on Zeppelins side on this page have opted to avoid labeling ANY one musician or artist as the 'greatest of all-time?' It's ignorant to believe a subjective art form can be rated and judged. And that is the entire point of this article. When bands get overrated and overexposed, they eclipse oftentimes superior bands of the same era. LOOK THIS SHIT UP ON YOUTUBE. ENJOY IT. It doesn't have to be better than Zeppelin, it doesn't have to become your new favorite band, but just realize no single band deserves title of greatest ever.

      Gentle Giant, Symphony-X, Savatage, Spyro Gyra, Ozric Tentacles, Tangerine Dream, Two Steps From Hell, Nightwish, the New Mastersounds, Organized Konfusion, Al Di Meola, Django Reindhart, Rainbow, Jethro Tull, Procol Harum, UFO, Mercyful Fate, Helloween, Jon Lord,

      So much music out there. Escape your safe, cozy classic rock radio rotation of the same 100 songs you've heard 1 million fucking time and discover some new music, shithead. Go listen to "The Odyssey" by Symphony-X. Open your fucking mind, stop regurgitating popular opinion and attacking people far more educated on music than you without so much as pinching their logic.


      You CAN compare bands by their technical proficiency, which is one thing Zeppelin lacked. You can compare bands by record sales, by what critics popularly say, by how many times they got their dick sucked by MTV.

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  44. To answer you, you said they did not invent hard rock, yet you did not tell me who in your opinion invented it. If you would, google hard rock and you should be able to read that the progenitors of hard rock, heavy metal are Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple which is why Led aren't overrated. For example, Bob Dylan started the psychedelic movement, but can we actually say that he's overrated?. A band is only overrated when they did not invent any new genre in music and truly suck,but worshipped by others like Gods. That is overrated. You speak like all of Zeppelin songs are plagiarized by other artists when they actually have many original songs. I agree that they should have given credit to those original artists. But think for one moment, back in those days, i'm sure others plagiarize as well but ,why aren't they sued? Is it because they are not famous? Another i would like to add, Jimi Hendrix played the guitar over his head, no doubt he's the greatest but, Jimmy also did the same thing as Jimi did. Ritchie Blackmore on the other hand, is responsible for the birth of a new genre which is heavy metal. Ritchie is definitely one of the greatest of all time but, Jimmy is a little bit more versatile than Ritchie. And i stated in my previous comment, other drummers might be faster or powerful than Bonzo, but none of them have the groove like he. Moon and Rich are the only two drummers that are even with Bonham.

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    1. "A band is only overrated when they did not invent any new genre in music and truly suck,but worshipped by others like Gods."

      Dude, Cream and the Yardbirds did the Led Zeppelin sound BEFORE Led Zeppelin did it. EVERY BAND OF THAT ERA...the late 60s and the 70s....it was all groundbreaking. Every single band had their own unique character...it was a time period of amazing innovation and captivating musicianship.

      The whole point you seem to be missing here is that it is ignorant for Zeppelin to be put on a pedestal that eclipses the rest of that era of music.

      You wanna know what their influence was on hard rock? Cock rock. Pop metal. That bullshit. Black Sabbath brought the horror element to the table, the heaviness, the dark atmosphere....so doom metal, death metal, black metal all basically started with Black Sabbath. (Venom and Bathory were influenced by Sabbath, who then spawned Black Metal, etc.)

      Deep Purple brought the speed, the organ / keys, the cinematic atmosphere, the neoclassical touches, the orchestra....they gave way to thrash metal, speed metal, power metal, neo-classical shred guitar, symphonic metal, and progressive metal. Did you know Deep Purple released 4 albums before Zeppelin even released their debut? AND TWO of those albums were concertos; 1 hour+ long spectacles of a rock band jamming with an orchestra. How fucking legendary is that? Sure beats the "Groupie, mudfish" orgy or the 14 year old kidnapping.

      "Moon and Rich are the only two drummers that are even with Bonham."

      So fucking ignorant. No Neil Pert? No Mike Portnoy? No Ian Paice? None of the literally thousands of metal drummers that play with just as much intensity and skill as Bonham did? I take it you've never heard the term "There's always someone better than you." That applies to everyone, including the best. In other words...there is no unanimously superior best. It's impossible.

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    2. I clearly said Freddie is probably the greatest rock singer of all time. I don't recall stating he's the greatest of all time. This is what i meant when you lack simple knowledge. You fail to even analyse a comment properly. Those people are too busy with their career and i'm sure they wouldn't waste their time with a retard. There are many artists outside,but are they on the same level as Led? I think you should quit being a musician when you even lack simple music knowledge. 'You wanna know what their influence was on hard rock? Cock rock. Pop metal' That's the reason why you should pursue other stuffs rather than being a musician. For fuck sake, Led invented those heavy riffing, together with Sabbath dark mystique lyrics and Deep purple speed and cinematic atmosphere, and guess what numbskull, they gave birth to a new genre called HARD ROCK. This shows your not your brain when leaving your 'educational' comments. My mistake. Pert,Moon,Bonham,Rich are even in strength and speed. Mike portnoy is no doubt very good, but he's a little bit not as good as them. I'm sure if Portnoy continues playing, he will one day be amongst the greatest drummer of all time.

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