This will probably be the most loathed entry in my entire blog, probably even more than suggesting Casey Anthony should rape Trayvon Martins corpse while Zimmerman masturbates whilst sobbing, but it has to happen. While reading this article, play the above cover of Stairway to Heaven, as performed by Frank Zappa. Not only will it calm your fiery RAGE down a few levels (this rage goes to 11) but it also illustrates what Zeppelin would sound like if a true genius was at the helm.
I. HATE. Led Zeppelin.
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I'd say Led Zeppelin are, by far, the most overrated band in the history of music. I feel this title is undisputed, and the only band to come close to getting as undeservedly exalted as them would be Nirvana. And although Zeppelin are miles ahead of Nirvana in terms of, well, everything, people don't consider Nirvana the most talented group of musicians of all-time. They just get credit for starting grunge. And killing hair metal. (Those bastards!)
Led Zeppelin is arguably the most celebrated rock band in history. They have millions of die-hard fans, a ridiculous legacy, the mystery and aura that goes along with the early death of a member/refusal of a legitimate reunion...But to people who's ears aren't stuffed to the brain with Jimmy Page and Robert Plants figurative cocks, they aren't all they're cracked out to be. It's obvious when comparing them to their peers they're a bit...out of their league.
Let's just say, that in the academy of classic rock, Zeppelin
rode the short-bus to school.
Deep Purple make Led Zeppelin sound like Nickelback. Purple could cover ANY Zep tune live and bring it to another level. Zep would stumble around Purps intricate song-structures in a heroin-induced daze, confused the songs have more than 2 riffs in them. If Zep tried to tackle some Tull, Yes, or Gentle Giant? Fugettabout it, their heads would explode at musical dynamics they didn't even knew existed.
A-Z BANDS BETTER THAN ZEPPELIN
Alice Cooper
Black Sabbath
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Deep Purple
Edgar Winter Group
Foreigner
Foreigner
Grateful Dead
Heaven and Hell
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Meat Loaf
Neil Young
Ozric Tentacles
Pink Floyd
Queen
Rainbow
Savatage
The Who
Uriah Heep
Van Halen
War
X-Japan
Yes
Zappa Plays Zappa
Heaven and Hell
Iron Maiden
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Meat Loaf
Neil Young
Ozric Tentacles
Pink Floyd
Queen
Rainbow
Savatage
The Who
Uriah Heep
Van Halen
War
X-Japan
Yes
Zappa Plays Zappa
Cut me a break on that last one, "Zappa Plays Zappa" IS better than Zeppelin. Plus, ZZ Top is a lot harder to sell than Zappa Plays Zappa, and I'm trying to prove a point here, fuckers. I could do this list about 2 or 3 more times, but "Z" and "X" are gonna prove to be tricky. Maybe a "100 Bands Better Than Zeppelin" list next? That would actually be easier.
And now, before you sacrifice me and spill my guts on your Led Zeppelin alters, I offer you rabid fans this peace pipe...
And now, before you sacrifice me and spill my guts on your Led Zeppelin alters, I offer you rabid fans this peace pipe...
A-Z BANDS/RAPPERS SHITTIER THAN ZEPPELIN
AFI
Backstreet Boys
Coldplay
Coldplay
Def Leppard
Evanescence
Foo Fighters
Girl TalkFoo Fighters
Hinder
ICP
Jay Z
KoRn
Lil' Wayne
My Chemical Romance
Nirvana
Obie Trice
KoRn
Lil' Wayne
My Chemical Romance
Nirvana
Obie Trice
Poison
Queen Latifah (of the Stone Age)
Queen Latifah (of the Stone Age)
Radiohead
Shinedown
Tila Tequila
U2
Vanilla Ice
White Stripes
Xzibit
Yellowcard
Zebrahead
There, we square, fuckers?
Ya know what I really don't understand, is why you Zeppelin fans get so unbelievably pissed someone trashes your band, as if suggesting this band sucks somehow diminishes your credibility. You literally HATE anyone who doesn't love your precious little Wed Zepwin. You are almost as elite as the Grateful Dead cult, yet you are so much angrier. Hell, I enjoyed my time in the Grateful Dead cult thoroughly, and return somewhat frequently. (I also love the Grateful Dead for their unique take on music.)
I'm serious when I say this; you can literally watch any respect you had from a Zeppelin fan quickly drain from their consciousness the second you admit you're not a die-hard fan of the band.
Why the fuck is not liking Zeppelin something you would have to ADMIT to? It's a fucking personal preference and opinion. I BRAG to people I enjoy the song "Kiss From a Rose" by Seal, why should I feel ashamed simply because I don't like a band who gets their egos jacked off constantly by 99 out of 100 music fans and 88.8 out of 89 music critics?
I don't attack people for hating on the entire 80's metal genre, saying bands like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are equivalent to Poison. Listen, I'm sorry your brains can't comprehend the musical genius of Savatage, and I pity the fact you'd rather bathe in mediocrity and shitty grunge music or soulless pop drivel, but I'm not gonna attack your right to bathe in that shitty, grungy, bland as shit mediocrity.
Why the fuck does MY opinion matter, any way? I'm just ONE musician, one complete nobody that rants on a comedy blog no one laughs at and releases free music, fairly regularly, that no one listens to. (It would make peoples brains explode, so they're dodging a musical bullet by ignoring my shit.) Who gives a fuck that I don't like Led Zeppelin?
FUCK YOU for personally attacking me for stating an opinion, you fucking shitheads, I didn't even bring you up! This is between ME and LED ZEPPELIN. STAND DOWN! Why are you defending them so vehemently, anyway? Did you fuck Robert Plant backstage at one of his shitty solo shows? Are you a distant relative of the late, great, John Bonham? Do you feel guilty for selling bootleg "Lead Zeppelin" shirts back in the early 70's at one of their gigs, and are trying to realign your moral compass? (Don't worry, they "bootlegged" a huge chunk of their music, stole tons of their shit....they even stole their band name.) Oh, it's just, my opinion is different than yours, you say? Well shut the fuck up, then. Drown me out with some Led Zeppelin. Or better yet, drown yourself.
Seriously, anyone who's still with me, go say you hate Zeppelin in a crowded area, yell it at the top of your lungs, and watch all the reactions you elicit. People will look at you like you just raped their children after covering your cock (or strap on dildo, for you ladies out there) with cyanide and anthrax and wrapped it with barbed wire or something.
When did Led Zeppelin hate start generating a level of disgust reserved for things like rape, pedophilia, and curb stomping puppies?
Shinedown
Tila Tequila
U2
Vanilla Ice
White Stripes
Xzibit
Yellowcard
Zebrahead
There, we square, fuckers?
Ya know what I really don't understand, is why you Zeppelin fans get so unbelievably pissed someone trashes your band, as if suggesting this band sucks somehow diminishes your credibility. You literally HATE anyone who doesn't love your precious little Wed Zepwin. You are almost as elite as the Grateful Dead cult, yet you are so much angrier. Hell, I enjoyed my time in the Grateful Dead cult thoroughly, and return somewhat frequently. (I also love the Grateful Dead for their unique take on music.)
I'm serious when I say this; you can literally watch any respect you had from a Zeppelin fan quickly drain from their consciousness the second you admit you're not a die-hard fan of the band.
Why the fuck is not liking Zeppelin something you would have to ADMIT to? It's a fucking personal preference and opinion. I BRAG to people I enjoy the song "Kiss From a Rose" by Seal, why should I feel ashamed simply because I don't like a band who gets their egos jacked off constantly by 99 out of 100 music fans and 88.8 out of 89 music critics?
I don't attack people for hating on the entire 80's metal genre, saying bands like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are equivalent to Poison. Listen, I'm sorry your brains can't comprehend the musical genius of Savatage, and I pity the fact you'd rather bathe in mediocrity and shitty grunge music or soulless pop drivel, but I'm not gonna attack your right to bathe in that shitty, grungy, bland as shit mediocrity.
Why the fuck does MY opinion matter, any way? I'm just ONE musician, one complete nobody that rants on a comedy blog no one laughs at and releases free music, fairly regularly, that no one listens to. (It would make peoples brains explode, so they're dodging a musical bullet by ignoring my shit.) Who gives a fuck that I don't like Led Zeppelin?
FUCK YOU for personally attacking me for stating an opinion, you fucking shitheads, I didn't even bring you up! This is between ME and LED ZEPPELIN. STAND DOWN! Why are you defending them so vehemently, anyway? Did you fuck Robert Plant backstage at one of his shitty solo shows? Are you a distant relative of the late, great, John Bonham? Do you feel guilty for selling bootleg "Lead Zeppelin" shirts back in the early 70's at one of their gigs, and are trying to realign your moral compass? (Don't worry, they "bootlegged" a huge chunk of their music, stole tons of their shit....they even stole their band name.) Oh, it's just, my opinion is different than yours, you say? Well shut the fuck up, then. Drown me out with some Led Zeppelin. Or better yet, drown yourself.
Seriously, anyone who's still with me, go say you hate Zeppelin in a crowded area, yell it at the top of your lungs, and watch all the reactions you elicit. People will look at you like you just raped their children after covering your cock (or strap on dildo, for you ladies out there) with cyanide and anthrax and wrapped it with barbed wire or something.
When did Led Zeppelin hate start generating a level of disgust reserved for things like rape, pedophilia, and curb stomping puppies?
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ReplyDeleteYes, that's how I feel when a Led Zep song comes on a "classic rock" radio station.
DeleteI know, I have the same reaction whenever I listen to Zeppelin. I feel your pain
ReplyDeleteLove the list of bands better than L.Z.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure you're a Beatles lover. Which destroys any credibility you may have had.
ReplyDeleteLed Zeppelin stole so much music they changed the term "Plagiarized" to "Pageiarized"
ReplyDeleteThe person that made the most amount of sense on here is a 15 year old. To say that Led Zeppelin is the most overrated band ever, is like saying Babe Ruth is the most overrated baseball player other. He did things in his time that are unheard of. To be honest reading the blog it sounded like you were on the losing end of something, because the fact remains that Zep is better then Purple you take it to heart... Dont give me this non sense about how other bands can play their music better then them, so that makes those bands better.. Robert Plant is overrated, alright very. But to say Jimmy Page is, i mean really, his peers such as Clapton, Townsend, and others dont really seem to think so. All bands music tends to sound the same, deep purple was and still is awesome. But to say they are hands down better, for fucks sake you had Meatloaf, Foreigner, and Rainbow listed as better. I mean i along with millions of others dont see it. The popular vote is not always right, but in this case have to side with the majority. Now if you want to blame radio for blaring the same 10 zeppelin songs for the last 50 years i understand, but to me Pink Floyd and Zep are in a league of their own. I understand opinions are like belly buttons everyone has one, fine, you dont have to like them, but to try and dismantle the excellence of Zep its impossible.. Which then begs the question, what the fuck is the point of all this?
DeleteLed Zeppelin is literally the most overrated band of all-time. Their fans are indoctrinated, mindless zombies who can't even figure out what they like so much about the band. Their music is shallow, repetitive, and lacks the musical dynamics most other bands of that era had in spades. Not only that, but again, they blatantly plagiarized many other songs and artists and took full credit for the composition of these stolen materials. You didn't give me a single reason why Zeppelin are the greatest band, other than you have millions of people agreeing with you. Why not try and rebuttal what I'm saying instead of just say "You're in the minority, you're wrong!"
DeleteI swear to god, Jimmy Page must have sucked Aleister Crowleys dick so hard, just to learn the secrets of audio mind control, because the fame and notoriety this ensemble get is downright offensive. Just look at the responses to this article. People are so angry I slighted Zeppelin. People literally get OFFENDED when you say you don't like this overrated band, and I'm sick of it. They aren't even an 18th as good as people claim, and I'm sick of people rushing to their defense. Every other classic rock band played more coherently than this overrated blimp.
Zeppelin had no idea how to properly utilize musical dynamics. The transitions in their songs are sloppy as hell. Half the time the "BIG MOMENT" in a Zeppelin song is some tired refrain that only features one instrument as everyone else drops out. They sounded like 4 people playing different songs that just happened to be on key. Jimmy Pages riffs sound off-time whenever he isn't playing an acoustic guitar. Robert Plant not only sounds off-key, but like a manish-woman having an orgasm.
Led Zeppelin was 1/2 a good band; John Bonham was impressive on the drums, and John Paul Jones was an excellent bassist. But Jimmy Page sounds like a drunken 12 year old with broken hands, and Robert Plant has the most annoying vocals in 'classic rock.' This band does NOT deserve all the credit they get.
I am not arguing with their influence, hundreds of bands were influenced by them. But what I am saying, is maybe hundreds of bands SHOULDN'T be influenced by the unoriginal Page and Plant. Maybe they should listen to "Made in Japan" to hear how an actual band without an ego and 10,000X the talent sound. Jon Lord alone is miles ahead of the entirety of Led Zeppelin. Fuck Led Zeppelin. They fucking suck, and fuck all the people who have Plant and Pages dicks planted in their ears.
First, for you or anybody else to say they suck and this is why is ridiculous. Music is not something that can be settled with stats like sports. Everything about music is entirely opinion. So the fact that they appeal to 100's of millions of people is something that you nor anybody else can explain. You are not as talented as them, you are not in a band that has sold countless albums and made more money then you know what to do with. You dont work for Rolling Stone (not that they know what they are talking about either) but it would give you more credibility then posting a fucking OPINION on a blog. I am sick of people being jealous that a band is bigger and considered by so many better then the band they love. John Bonham was impressive on drums? By far and agreed by most PROFESSIONALs, the best drummer ever. EVER. Close second would be Moon. Now for the ripping of Jimmy Page, it is laughable to even think that you could put a list together of more then 3 guitarist that are better, im sure you could, but that wouldnt mean it was true. I will admit, that Hendrix clearly above the rest the best.. Clapton and Beck are probably better also. But just because you come up with a name that most people havent heard (Jon Lord ecspecially his work with Purple) doesnt make you a expert. I am not a expert but what i do know is that its impossible to prove that Led Zeppelin is overrated and not one of the best bands ever. The majority is against you, and you can say often the majority can be wrong. But i will have to say record sales and opinions of experts dictate that Led Zeppelin belongs right where they are, at the top with the likes of Floyd, Beatles and others. And it is kinda offensive when a site like this or some other music snob want to be tries to convince the world that the greatest really isnt the greatest. Babe Ruth isnt the greatest baseball player ever, Hank Aaron has more home runs, really he also has like 4000 more at bats. If Led Zeppelin is monotonous to you then why not just forget about them and listen to what you like. What is there to accomplish by trashing them and trying to tell the majority that your right and they are wrong your simply causing anguish for yourself. Smoke a joint listen to your Deep Purple and LET IT GO..
DeleteMusic is absolutely something you can grade. There are innumerable elements that make up music, many of which you can use to judge it by; technicality, originality, virtuosity, dexterity, instrument-by-instrument break down, innovation, band chemistry, live performance, composition, use of musical dynamics, precision, etc. Art is subjective, sure, but most music "plays by the rules" in many ways. In other words, most musicians at least need to know the fundamental basics of music theory to compose songs - it's what differentiates MUSIC from NOISE. Ambient sound design and atonal music are something else entirely.
DeleteI can't say with confidence that I'm a better guitarist than Jimmy Page, simply because it is impossible to judge oneself without a biased opinion. Especially when its putting yourself up against someone whos work you absolutely loath and despise. I will say this, however:
1) I am more original than Jimmy Page in that I don't intentionally plagiarize other musicians compositions and take credit for them.
2) Due to recording technologies, I have been able to create a FAR more impressive and vast body of work than Jimmy Page likely had at 24 years old.
3) From a technical standpoint, my guitar playing is far more dexterous than Jimmy Pages stumbled ramblings. I have more precision and don't mess up every 3rd bar of music.
I never claimed to be an expert, Scott. I posted an opinion on my blog. A blog, as in an internet journal / platform to vent frustrations. You yourself mentioned the fact this is a mere blog in your tired, butthurt response. Which begs the question - if I have no credibility, why did you even feel the need to respond? Why even bother? It should be clear by the article itself and my responses to other peoples responses my distaste for Led Zeppelin will never be diluted. In fact, Zeppelin faggots like yourself are only strengthening my anti-Zeppelin sentiments. Thanks for fueling the fires of my Zeppelin hatred, Scott! You dick.
I never asked you to read my ramblings, you chose to do so yourself. I'm not posting these thoughts on Led Zeppelin forums, I'm just stating my opinion on my personal website. You're a fucking douchebag for looking up "Led Zeppelin sucks" on Google, finding this as the first result, and then feeling compelled to come spout your musically uneducated tripe about how I have no right to slander the band you lost your anal virginity to and that music is subjective and that blah blah fucking blah. YOU got so offended over my opinion, you felt it necessary to take the time out of your day to come here and bring it to a personal level - completely on your own accord. So not only do you have shitty taste, considering you actually like Zeppelin, but you are a fucking hypocrite for telling me I'm in the wrong for sharing an opinion and then doing the exact same thing in a far worse fashion. I'm just speaking my mind on a site I never expected anyone would read....you personally came here to attempt to debunk my opinions. My venting was impersonal; your response was an attempt to personally debunk me for having a different opinion than you.
DeleteYes, John Bonham was IMPRESSIVE. I'll stress again the use of the word IMPRESSIVE. God forbid someone doesn't verbally suck Bonhams dick when giving his playing praise. This is the exact kind of blind, fanboy fueled hype that further intensifies my hatred for the band. Even my COMPLIMENTS are good enough for Zeppelin? It's mind boggling Led Zeppelin are worshiped on such a level that "under-complimenting" them is offensive to their indoctrinated fanbase.
The amount of guitarists that play circles around Page are innumerable. And the amount of composers who write better music are in the thousands. He was a hack who stole other peoples music. He blatantly lifted passages and took credit for them, some times even from former band mates or bands he had toured with.
Oh boo hoo, the majority is against me. I guess that's why they feel threatened enough about my opinion they come here to attempt to prove me wrong. To actually think this site is offensive is hilarious. You're offended someone doesn't like Led Zeppelin? That just goes to prove my point even more, it gives me all the more reason to continue hating this band, loathing their fanbase, and calling them overrated hacks every chance I get. YOU DIDN'T EVEN BRING UP JOHN PAUL JONES! Just as I said, he was the most underrated member, and you completely skipped him over. I guess Zeppelin fans are too shallow to realize what makes music good, and too idiotic to realize who the most valuable musician in the band was.
DeleteLed Zeppelin are monotonous to me, and I don't listen to them, I listen to what I like. But jackasses like you exist, trying to shove a firecracker up the anus of anyone who has a negative opinion of the band. There is so much unnecessary hype and praise heaped onto this band, that my rants and negative opinions are NECESSARY for other people who can see past the hype and sheep mindset. You will NEVER see me going on a Zeppelin forum to post this article, because I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong...I'm just trying to express myself. When the parade of douchebags come marching in, like you and the rest of the people who can't separate themselves from the hive mindset, I then DEFEND MY OPINIONS you guys chose to personally attack for no reason.
What is there to accomplish by trashing the band? It certainly accomplishes more than going to someones personal website to tell them their opinion is wrong, I'll tell you that much. Maybe this is my way of venting so I don't get fired at work for going on a warpath when someone steals my sandwich from the work fridge. Maybe I'm one step away from jumping off a bridge after popping 4 dozen benzodiazepines. Maybe I felt SOMEONE needed to offset the ridiculous, unwarranted praise this band gets with an unbiased opinion from a musician who tries to listen to music with as open a mind as possible. And maybe I was trying to craft a comedic article that lures in tasteless morons like yourself and gets them all worked up about someones opinion.
I don't need to let anything go. All you fucking jackasses coming here to tell me I'm wrong for thinking differently need to let it go. 99/100 people are brainwashed into thinking this band has anything worth listening to. Leave the 1/100 alone, dickhead.
Haha.. Yes. I love it. I respect your opinion, and absolutely love everything you said, it is evident that you are educated. The name calling is a little much, but its okay. I am not much older then you, not that it matters. You are correct, why would i come onto your turf and start up this shit with you. To be honest i searched for something else on google not led zeppelin sucks, lol, and stumbled onto this, and you should be happy that somebody reads it. Isn't that what its for? Somebody to read and then converse about. I mean if you wanted to keep a journal and not have anybody read it you wouldnt have posted it on the internet. Don't get mad, I love to hear others opinions, look at something from someone elses shoes. I agree with you that music can be graded or however it was phrased to an extent, the problem with technicality, originality, virtuosity, dexterity, instrument-by-instrument break down, innovation, band chemistry, live performance, composition, use of musical dynamics, precision, etc is all judged based on opinion.. Composition isn't given a rating of 1-10, one person may feel the band chemistry is better then another persons opinion. Thats my point, its not like baseball where stats and facts are used, you can say well this person has this number of HR's and RBI and all that shit. And to rate a team as a whole, you would look at championships, or wins which would be similar to record sales. I was by no means offended, i would never get offended from someone saying something terrible about a band or anything i like. I understand to each his/her own, i was stating that Zep fans could be offended because you are stating your opinion as if your stating facts. A fact that a limited amount of music was inspired or altered by Led from other. Music can be judged and what not, but you can't say John Bonham is the best, rather a passive impressive. I did not come on here to tell you that you cant have a opinion, simply that i disagree with your opinion and this is why. If you dont want to hear it because you would rather just chat with fellow anti-zep fans, thats cool. And maybe you put this on here thinking that nobody would read it, but you were hoping that people would, otherwise you would have written in a book and stashed it under your bed. So now your gonna freak out when someone differs. I appreciate the fact that you have the balls to go against the grain and post your opinion about zep in such magnitude on the world wide web. My final point is that I'm glad you do this rather then blow up your place of business or jump off a cliff, but your not fooling anybody, i think you are getting exactly what you want when zep fans post the opposite of your opinion. Music is one of, if not the greatest invention on earth, it is what musicians use to express themselves HOWEVER THEY MAY DO IT. Some hate it, some love it. And my first post was to sorta push buttons by exaggerating the positives as you exaggerated what you viewed as negatives. But when you express your opinion and someone reacts in a manner other then what you want, your limiting yourself intellectually. And you seem very intellectual, just angry. But i will be more then welcome to not continue this discussion with you if you so chose, being your site and all. I honestly would like to further discuss anything.
DeleteHere are the choice quotes from your original post that made me respond in such an extravagant fashion.
Delete"I am not a expert but what i do know is that its impossible to prove that Led Zeppelin is overrated and not one of the best bands ever."
"I am sick of people being jealous that a band is bigger and considered by so many better then the band they love. John Bonham was impressive on drums? By far and agreed by most PROFESSIONALs, the best drummer ever. EVER"
"And it is kinda offensive when a site like this or some other music snob want to be tries to convince the world that the greatest really isnt the greatest"
In all honesty, and to break character briefly, I have fun debating this topic, because the Zeppelin fans are so passionate in their love of the band, and I'm so passionate in my anti-Zeppelin sentiments. A lot of the articles on this blog, I'm looking to be proven wrong, or 'educated' in a way on how people think; why they think the way they do. This blog started as a spin-off of 'social experiments' I was conducting on my personal Facebook.
I'm disappointed time and time again, however, that most people....instead of debating in an amicable and intelligent fashion....resort to personal insults, as opposed to defending whatever it is I'm attacking with my verbal onslaughts. I'm actually taken aback by the amount of support Zeppelin gets - I really can't comprehend or understand WHY the band gets the praise they do. I've listened to all their music, TRIED to get into them, I tried to FORCE myself to like their music, but I found that every album had maybe 1 or 2 good songs and a bunch of filler. It does offend me, to some extent, that Deep Purple has to live in the shadow of not only Zeppelin, but Sabbath as well, when Purple were in fact a far more progressive, diverse, and experimental band. Hell, Purple JUST released a new album, and no one in the States gives a fuck. But everyone is all jacking off about the new Sabbath with Ozzy. Boggles my mind.
Having said all that, I realize Zeppelin has influenced so many musicians, and garnered countless amounts of fans. I don't think Jimmy Page flat out sucks, I just think he should stick to playing acoustic, because his electric playing is so sloppy and out of time. I don't think he writes good riffs - his riffs stumble, they sound off time, like his fret board is made of quick sand and his fingers are getting stuck. Robert Plant I think flat out sucks. I hate his voice, I hate his personality. He's a funny bastard on occasion, but he's such an egotistical prick. One of my least favorite singers of all-time. And I respect the hell out of John Bonham and John Paul Jones.
My main issue with Zeppelin is that they are just mediocre compared to their peers. I don't get why they get credit for what Cream and the Yardbirds (and the countless blues musicians they stole from) did before them. I don't get why they get called the "Greatest Rock Band of All-Time" when literally every band from that era could play circles around them and didn't steal their music. I feel like this Zeppelin phenomenon is a USA thing - I get the impression they aren't quite as exaggerated in other countries as they are here.
See that, everybody should read this and see how two normal people (im not normal by any means) who have the complete different opinion can have a somewhat intelligent conversation. My whole thing is that the main reason i love music is because its not cut and dry. When i hear songs like Kasmir, Achilles last stand, Rock n Roll, Four Sticks, the Wanton Song, In my time of dying, In the evening, i dont want to make your head explode (haha) but that is what i feel rock n roll is. Jimmy to me has a style that not many have, it really appeals to me, i dont like the clean cut guitar, i like when it sounds like Page, hendrix. Clapton to me is a top 3 gutarist, but very clean cut which isn't a bad thing. I have to admit like you said 9 out 10 people when i mention Zep love them, i have heard people say they think zep is a little overrated. And thats the beauty, its what appeals to each individual. Personally, i think U2, Aerosmith, Lynard Skynard and a few others are overrated. People look at me like I'm crazy.. They are very talented, especially the latter two. When Tyler is screaming like a girl (mostly after the first two albums).. Just not my cup of tea. They don't do it for me as you would say, now i have never delved into Deep Purple like i have with Zep, Floyd, Stones, and Beatles. I prefer classic rock to any other type. I love sabbath, but love Metallica more (from Kill'em All to Black Album). We do agree on Plant, if i had to place him in a percentile it would be about 65%, meaning hes better then average, but not epic, my personal favorite lead singer is Eric Burdon from the Animals. Or maybe Fogerty, I dont know, changes week to week.
DeleteAs far as the one quote, your rant kind of did sound like you were upset because your band was slighted. And again, i knew what i was typing, I wrote that to get a reaction. It seemed like you were trying to take on the music industry because Deep Purple doesn't get the recognition it deserves, and a great band like Zep probably got or gets a little to much. Sadly i am gonna admit this to you, fuck, i have been thinking about this shit for 3 days now trying to figure it out in my head. I have listened to albums from Zep and comparing them to The Who (i love, but something about them that is to.. boring) Pink Floyd who is probably my favorite band ever, mostly because they do things and make music i have just never heard anything like. And now i will ask you for 5 epic songs from Deep Purple besides Smoke on the water, Soldier of Fortune, and Child in Time. Everybody i have discussed this with, basically says, "Why do you give a shit what someone you dont even know has to say about Led Zeppelin", and honestly, I don't know. Just consumed with the fact that i have never met or heard someone hate Zep so much. By the way Cream and Yardbirds are stellar.
I knew you weren't the asshole your rants farther up on the page indicated, I could tell by your english and the first response you sent me (minus the name calling) that you were pretty civil and intelligent. But give me some songs from Purple that people don't hear on the radio. You really don't like The Wanton Song? Or Kashmir? Immigrant Song? Hahahaha.. Sorry.
Yea, the intensity of the rant is satire, but I still think its bullshit Zeppelin are put on such a lofty pedestal. Like, I consider it factually incorrect to hold them in such high regard, given how much more technically proficient their peers were. Their music to me doesn't move around enough - it kind of stays in the same spot for so long without evolving. And when they finally do try to take the song somewhere else, half the time they do like acapella vocal solos or random, guitar solos without anyone else doing anything...it all sounds so jumbled and forced, like the band don't have the chemistry to play fluid and organically. The chemistry almost feels counterfeit to me, which most people would think sounds insane. But I feel that way because they lack the fluidity I find in my favorite types of music, namely progressive rock, heavy metal, (across all sub-genres), jam bands (across all jam sub-genres) and film scores.
DeleteHere's a list of 10 highly diversified Deep Purple tracks. They literally introduced all the elements into rock and metal that I am drawn to, such as speed, classical influence, and mythical 'ethnic' scales such as the phrygian:
April (Released in 1969, pre-Sabbath and pre-Zeppelin. Monumental track)
Fireball (Released in 1972, this is arguably the beginnings of speed / thrash metal.)
Lazy
Knockin' at your Back Door
Gypsy's Kiss
Hey Cisco
Rosas Cantina
Strangeways
Gettin' Tighter
Holy Man
There's so many more A+ songs from this band. Here's another 10:
Uncommon Man (RELEASED LAST WEEK! Now What?! is an amazing album. Sounds like a band from 1972 transported to the future time of 2013)
Body Line (Also from the new album)
Vincent Price (Also from the new album...you should probably check out the entire thing on Youtube)
Son of Alerik
Dead or Alive
Mad Dog
Wicked Ways
I've Got Your Number
Burn
Walk On
Alright so I am gonna be 100% honest, I am not gonna give me opinion based on the fact that you hate Led Zeppelin. I am listening to each song and then typing what I think. Nothing I say is to diss or piss you off, I swear.
DeleteApril- It was okay, again my taste seems to be little different. It reminds me of a slower Santana or Animals song. I am very drawn to the slap you in the face and keep it going the whole song type music. Hence the Kill them all reference earlier.
Fireball- Very nice. The keyboard was done exceptionally well (not a big fan normally). Speed was awesome, and the tambourine at the end was a great touch.
Lazy- Have heard this song many of times, guitar play was solid. Harmonica makes the song in my OPINION, haha. I wont capitalize it anymore.
Knocking at your back door- Only 2 min in, not really liking it. Has a 80's hair band feel. And again there is nothing wrong with that genre, not my favorite at all.
Gypsys Kiss- Sorta the same feel, the drums for 90% of the song are the same. Which doesnt make it bad, but all i could focus on was that ba-dump ba-dump. Guitar solo part was serious.
Hey cisco- Again the drums almost sound the same as Gypsys Kiss, but i am impressed with guitar play.
Rosas Cantina- I like this alot better then the previous two, harmonica is great and drums much more diverse. Guitar play again is good. Harmonica steals the show tho. Favorite so far.
Strangeways- Would love this song if there were no lyrics. Again dont care for the words or voice. But definitely a good tune.
Getting tighter- Epic song, the edge seems to be there for sure. Guitar play is stellar, has that feel that i like. Got some funk to it, always a plus.
Holy Man- It rocks for cross between a ballad and not-ballad. But kind of dull for me.
Uncommon Man- Not to bad for being released a couple weeks ago. Kind of keyboardish for my taste.
Overall I am gonna say this, and again the whole point of this is to view opinions right? I guess negatives first: They just don't seem to have that something that grabs me and keeps me sucked in. Almost a generic feel on some songs. Some of the songs I'm guessing were from later albums and had the 80's influence to them, which I can't explain why, I have never liked. Sounds like i heard a couple different lead singers, the one was okay didnt care for the other. I was talking to my brother, bigger music fan then me, has well over 300 rock CD's. Deep Purple is in his top 10, but has to agree that they are not better then Zep, Floyd, Who, Hendrix, Stones, Sabbath..
For the positives, which will not pain me to much to say. The guitar play is undeniably epic, hands down really good. Drums at times were great. I am drawn to the stuff that came from the late 60's and early to mid 70's. They moved up on my list cause the talent is undeniable. I did this for a reason, I am a very open minded person as far as giving pretty much anything a chance, 10 years ago I heard House of the rising sun, never knew The Animals had another song, listen to their catalog and they are one of my many many many favorite bands. The rest of the songs I am gonna get to. Because you don't like Zep doesn't mean I think you don't know what your talking about, I just can't stress my point of music affects everybody in different ways. I get the weirdest looks when I tell people I don't like Aerosmith(mostly). Feel free to critique.
I am shocked that you are speechless.. Haha. Has this ever happened before?
DeleteNot speechless. It's more just I have actual pressing issues in real life that take precedence over internet squabbles.
DeleteBy how filled this site is, doesn't appear so.. Good luck with the "pressing issues". Hope it's not saving lives. I think i will say a prayer for Zep fans tonight, in case your a doctor or nurse.
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Your credibility is not destroyed The Beatles wrote some amazing songs. Led Zeppelin are overrated i love what you wrote especially the part about their heads trying to explode if they tried to tackle some songs of other more musically talented bands. Ive said it before and i will say it again the fact is Led Zeppelin were one of the great rock bands of the day. To elevate them to some god like status is and has always been laughable. Claiming Led Zeppelin as the best rock band ever is a slap in the face to other bands who mainly composed their own music.
ReplyDeleteIndeed. Even the songs they plagiarized, they didn't exactly execute them in an interesting fashion. Too many Zeppelin songs just repeated the same thing over and over, the same riff 100 times without any variation. They also had a very sloppy sounding signature sound. Everything sounds so stumbled, like their on too much heroin to play their instruments properly. Same thing with Nirvana, incidentally. Eddie Van Halen wasn't joking when he said -
Delete""Jimmy Page is an excellent producer. Led Zeppelin and Led Zeppelin II are classics. As a player, he's very good in the studio. I never saw him play well live. He's very sloppy. He plays like he's got a broken hand and he's two years old. But if you put out a good album and play like a two-year-old live. What's the purpose?""
This is literally one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen online. Mainly because of the bands you posted as being better than Zeppelin.
ReplyDeleteLook, I have no problem with people that don't like Led Zeppelin. Most of the people I love and care about don't like Led Zeppelin. But I do have a problem with completely trashing a band based on solely your opinions. I didn't really see any GOOD points towards why Zeppelin "sucks". All you did was use 5th grade insults towards the band, and then you tried to assert that your own shitty taste in music was much better.
Get a life, you tasteless fuckwad.
Why should I waste time making "good points" towards why Led Zeppelin are the most overrated band of all-time, exactly? Their music says more about their overall lack of compositional skill than I could ever hope to. It doesn't matter how many times I point out that.....
Delete....the band was usually too doped out to perform a worthwhile performance in a live setting. Or that....
....they plagiarized a huge chunk of material in the most disrespectful, egotistical fashion possible. (As in, they stole peoples music, took full credit, then literally rained the menstrual blood of a thousand vaginas down on anyone who tried to use a Led Zeppelin song in movies or TV commercials. Oh, I see, it's OK for Zeppelin to literally rip-off three songs in just ONE of their 'compositions,' but it isn't OK for people to use their music to sell Chryslers. Makes sense. Stealing from the theft would be too redundant. Kind of like how every Led Zeppelin song sounds - redundant.) Or that....
.....Robert Plant is the most abrasive sounding vocalist of all-time. Why Robert Plant is given credit for starting the high-pitched singing when Ian Gillan was doing a far better job with a far bigger range in Deep Purple is beyond me. Literally ALL the credit Led Zeppelin gets as such a mega-influential band should be transferred to Deep Purple, who could literally play circles around them.
Look, I have no problem with people that like Led Zeppelin. Most of the people I tolerate like Led Zeppelin. But I do have a problem with completely trashing someone based soley on their opinions. I didn't really see any GOOD points towards why Zeppelin "rocks." All you did was use 5th grade comebacks towards me, and then tried to assert that your own shitty, smug response to my opinion was much better.
Get a death. (I'm not gonna copy the "you tasteless fuckwad" part because people that use the term "fuckwad" are lame on a level worthy of their own entire article. "Fuckwad..." that's almost as terrible as "Fucktard." People who use the terminology "Fuckwad" and "Fucktard" should be sterilized or have their tongues removed or something.)
How old is this guy? Ur opinion is a moot point... "they play the same rifts and chorus"... yet insist deep purple is better LOL I love the beatles but they do the same thing... listen to hey jude... I agree led zep is over played on the radio but if I hear the 1 deep purple song that plays on the radio, I change the station... and stealing ppls music LOL u must hate shakespear and literally everything else in this world... I assume u have no education and u have never heard the phrase "there is no original text" wana take credit on sumthing? Be the one to make it popular... rock, classic, jazz, rap, fuk even dubstep lol every genre has this issue... if deep purple was claimed the best band of all time im sure no one would call them overrated LOL... I was waiting for u to call out robert plant for never wearing a shirt
Delete:/ but u didn't... and being trashed for live performances is to be expected... have u ever heard black sabath live??? Lol im 15 and could tell u that haha... but seriously y even bring up live performances of a band from the 60's???
agreed nirvana is over rated and led zep is over played... seriously tho deep purple lol "wow fucker, u have great taste" im sure u hear that constantly hahahaha lets go ahead and cover what makes a band great... SALES!!! prove me wrong :) u really should have been more sarcastic cuz wen I read this my thought was u wer genuinely dumb... im sorry but wen u say orzic tentacles and rainbow are better bands I have to question ur intelligence... how does it feel to get burned by a 15 yr old fucker?
Listen, if you're gonna attack my post and brag about being a little 15 year old faggot, remember to turn on spell check so you don't trip over your own logic. I wager this post isn't even real, so beyond these two sentences I'm going to ignore it completely.
DeleteBetter 15 year old faggot then 35... u mad bro?
Deleteyeah this post is so fake let me tell ya bout it... oh and grammar LOL bitch plz u have numerous typos... only difference is I don't give a fuk lol... u just mad cuz ur only come back is that im 15 and actually have a point wer as u... do not
U didn't even attempt to debate me cuz ur afraid to lose to sumone half ur age
T9 is for pussies
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I like Led Zeppelin a lot,all the members of the band are very talented,they're not overated in my opinion,they are very good.Led Zeppelin along with Deep Purple and Black Sabbath created the Heavy Metal man,they rock.They have remarkable song like Stairway To Heaven,Kashmir,Achilles Last Stand,Black Dog etc.
ReplyDeleteJohn Paul Jones is easily the most accomplished member of the group, and Bonham was a beast on drums. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant were rather mediocre, overall.
DeleteI don't think Led Zeppelin did much for metal. Everything they were doing either Black Sabbath or Deep Purple were already doing 10 times better.
So I decided to yell out "I hate Led zeppelin" on campus to day. You won't believe the reactions of people ignoring me, looking up slightly for a moment and then back down to what they were previously doing. I created a riot of people casually walking by me as if nothing happened. I don't know who raped you to the album of House of the Holy. But you shouldn't blame led Zeppelin. Granted there definitely not the best band if all time, because that is hands down the band from the cantina on Nar Shaddaa. But deep purple is a close second :P
ReplyDeleteThe only type of "rape" perpetuated against me whilst listening to 'House of the Holy' is the raping the band themselves administered to my ear drums. They were technically 'raping my ears' by composing such bland, bloated music with they lazily lifted from other artists compositions.
DeleteAlso, despite getting tired of initiating the "grammar Nazi" sequence, I can't pass up the opportunity to point out the absurdity of the very first sentence of your comment
DeleteSo I decided to yell out "I hate Led zeppelin" on campus to day
SO I DECIDED TO YELL OUT "I HATE LED ZEPPELIN" ON CAMPUS TO DAY
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You my friend, are retarded. My entire post was a joke, but you are so far up your own ass, I don't think you caught that. It is spring break, so clearly I made this entire post up. (As a joke) I repeat this was a joke (in case you still don't get it). Also, if you are going to criticise people on their grammar, you should probably work on your run on sentences. Seriously though, I gave you gold.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_EISUstqdl
Let me paraphrase the point I was making in the previous post
*clears throat*
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK
Word of advice. Continue acting like you are not an idiot by using verbose sentences with poor structure, it suits you. But you don't have to take my word for it, just look at your profile. You are not "A" philanthropist, you contribute nothing to society. You are a drop out who probably still lives with his parents. BIG MAN.
The only reason I even visited your blog was because me and my little brother were having an arguement about over played crap we hear on the radio. We ran across you blog and decided to troll. (Successfully) who would have thought you have so little of a life you would actually respond o.O
Now hit replay on that BADASS CANTINA MUSIC!!!!
"It is spring break, so clearly I made this entire post up."
DeleteHope you're having fun on your spring break.....leaving comments on peoples blogs....
"The only reason I even visited your blog was because me and my little brother were having an arguement about over played crap we hear on the radio. We ran across you blog and decided to troll. (Successfully) who would have thought you have so little of a life you would actually respond o.O"
You don't need to 'rationalize' yourself to me, because I don't give a fuck. You're gonna bitch about my bitching on my blog? Right on, champ, knock yourself out and clear your throat some more.
"We ran across you blog and decided to troll. (Successfully) who would have thought you have so little of a life you would actually respond o.O"
How was your trolling 'Successful?' I immediately pointed out you were a troll in my response, you fucking idiot.
If anything, the article itself is the only instance of successful trolling to be seen here. You and your butt buddy brother literally wasted time out of your lives to not only post separate comments, but then to check back again later to see if I responded. And you say I'm the one with no life? When you're wasting your spring break hitting F5 on my "Led Zeppelin Sucks" article from almost a year ago?
I get an E-MAIL NOTIFICATION every time someone comments on my blog. Did you get an e-mail notification that I responded? Of course you didn't, because you posted ANONYMOUSLY. So that means you returned to MY SITE, giving me MORE HITS and thus giving me MORE REVENUE, whilst on your spring break. Strong life you got. Go back to sucking your little bros dick and clearing his semen from your throat so you can make pretentious comment on websites you fail to realize are satire. Sounds like the perfect spring break for you, it suits you.
God Damm Led Zeppelin they seem to bring out the worst in people. They bring out the worst in me aside from a couple songs Led Zeppelin 1 and 2 are essentially one long song about either leaving a woman or a woman leaving them pretty juvenille lyrics. Led Zeppelin III is my favorite album mainly because Plant isnt oversinging or doing those annoying vocal runs and adlibs (way to ruin a fuckin song). Yes Deep Purple were a better band on all levels. Jon Lord holy shit what do you say about him he had the idea to take a Hammond B3 and tap it straight into a marshall stack what an amazing idea and sound. Im not a big fan of screaming in music but if i want to hear it done right i listen to Ian Gillan let loose in Child In Time-1970 (that is how its done). Led Zeppelin wrote some good songs mainly from Zeppelin III-1970 and on. However they stole and covered way too many songs how can i give credit for that. Some people say who cares because they took the songs and made them better. Why are they better because they are heavier??? that is bullshit theft is theft. If someone asked me who the best band is of all time how the hell could i answer that question given the fact that the late 60's and most of the 70's had the best music ever made PERIOD. To shrink that down to one band is beyond absurd i could give you a top 10 but more likely a top 20. I just find a lot of bands more intresting to listen to than Zeppelin one of Zeppelins best songs in their catalogue and this actaully proves they could write something heavy handed with substance is NO QUARTER-1973 the song still would have served better without the vocal effect on Plant's voice it comes across as almost laughable. Still a great song for those who think Zeppelin invented Heavy Blues rock they didnt!!!! Cream did and for those who think Zeppelin invented Heavy Metal they didnt Black Sabbath did!!!! and for those who think they invented Hard Rock they didnt there were more than a handfull of bands that did i dont even hafto name them.People can build Zeppelin up all they want that is fine but the reality is they were a great rock band playing in an era with other great rock bands. A true music lover is the only person that will recognize that.
ReplyDeleteLed Zeppelin sound good...when other people play their songs. Led Zeppelin is indescribably underwhelming. I literally think they put people into a trance by repeating musical phrases for 9 full minutes without changing.
DeleteThey were always balls deep in the occult (and dolphin pussy), maybe they used their freaky witchcraft to indoctrinate the listeners. Hell, I bet Tool does the same fucking thing. Tricks people into thinking they're good with subliminal mind control techniques.
haha it could be man it could be so let me ask what is your fav Deep Purple i have three of them i like almost equally
ReplyDeleteI can't just pick three. Here's the first songs to come to mind:
DeleteApril, Lazy, Strangeways, Anya, Knocking At Your Back Door, Hey Cisco, Gypsy's Kiss, A Twist in the Tale, Solitaire, I've Got Your Number, Sometimes I Feel Like Screaming, Fireball, Anyones Daughter, Holy Man, Hold On, Getting Tighter, Comin' Home, Son of Alerik, First Day Jam, Woman from Tokyo, Fire in the Basement, Wicked Ways, Mad Dog, the Unwritten Law, Dead or Alive, Ramshackle Man...
There's too much Deep Purple to make a simple list. They constantly changed their style, probably as a result of revolving door of musicians. I will say this, though: for me, every single Mark of Deep Purple was better than Zeppelin. Except maybe Mark VI, if only because Joe Satriani was a fill-in and they never recorded any full albums.
But Come Taste the Band? I find more worth in that album than Zeppelins discography. Same goes for Slave and Masters - I find more enjoyment from that album than every song in Zeppelins career combined. But Zeppelin don't even come close to touching Mark I, Mark II, Mark III, Mark IV, Mark VII, or Mark VIII.
It's just undeniable that Deep Purple are far more imaginative composers than Zeppelin, far more accomplished musicians.
Steve Morse, Tommy Bolin, and Ritchie Blackmore all play circles around Page. I don't even think Page comes close to matching any of them.
Ian Gillan, David Coverdale, Glenn Hughes, and even Joe Lynn Turner are all far more accomplished vocalists AND lyricists than Robert Plant ever was. Plant shrills and wails like a high school girl in heat, singing tone-deaf variations of other peoples lyrics that he later took credit for.
Jon Lord single-handedly dismantles Led Zeppelin. And Don Airey is a beast.
Roger Glover is a groove machine. But I have the utmost respect for John Paul Jones, who was the unspoken genius of Zeppelin.
Paice > Bonham for me, as well. I just think the diversity of Deep Purples material and Ian Paices being there since the beginning easily eclipses Bonzos ridiculous playing.
I could easily make an entire new article about why Deep Purple is far more important to the history of rock than Zeppelin, but so many people already hit this article I'll just leave it right here in a comment. Purple piss all over Zeppelin with their weakest material. They are leagues and leagues ahead of Zeppelin.
I agree my favorite Deep Purple albums are In Rock-1970, Machine Head-1972 and Burn-1975. My favorite Rod Evans songs are Hush,Why Didnt Rosemary and The Painter. In Rock along with Uriah Heeps first album is very important to the evolution of Heavy Metal. In Rock is Deep Purples heaviest album (Living Wreck) is one of my favorites from the album. There is no filler to be found on In Rock and Ian's screams on Child In Time are beyond sick!!!!! Richie's guitar solo on Child In Time moves me more than any of Jimmy Page's stuff. Machine Head is also great not quite as raw as In Rock. Burn is amazing as well Glenn Hughes and David Coverdale are great singers and Richie's opening riff on Sail Away is fuckin dirty i love it. Stormbringer has some great songs the title track,Holy Man and Highball Shooter. As far as drumming goes Ian Paice is more exciting to listen to than John Bonham i agree. Hey did you ever listen to the band Rod Evans started after getting the boot from Purple they were called Captain Beyond. Also did you listen to the band Nick Simper started called Warhorse. What do you say about Jon Lord one of the best Hammond players ever.
ReplyDeleteI haven't heard Captain Beyond or much of Warhorse. All of Rainbows output was amazing, IMO (including when they went Arena Rock - I even love the track "Since You've Been Gone," great corny little number). Whitesnake is a much more skilled band than they get credited for, as well. They did have Jon Lord on the keys for a little while, there...the master of the Hammond. Whitesnake commonly get written off as a hair metal band but they were more hard rock blues than anything. Gillans solo work is quite impressive too. And Glenn Hughes solo stuff is also very impressive. Steve Morse has a storied past as well. And Don Airey is no slouch, what with being Jon Lords protege and all. Joe Lynn Turner also has a storied career, and love it or hate it, Blackmores Night is unique and rather impressive, despite being somewhat campy. (And Candace Night is hot. Good for you, Ritchie!)
DeleteI'd love to hear a Ian Anderson / Ritchie Blackmore album. THAT would be something.
Deep Purple has a huge family tree of related bands. And nearly all of them had some impressive music as well. Rainbow would definitely be my favorite, tied with Jon Lord solo output. Gotta love Roger Glovers work as well. The band is just immense, all around. Zeppelin doesn't even come close. I leave you with this, a link to a Jon Lord album on Youtube. RIP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMI-R8Ka0c
The first time i heard Glenn Hughes was when i picked up the Burn Cassette. The first time i really took note of Glenn Hughes was whe i discovered the band Trapeze the album was Medusa what a kick ass hard rock album that is. I have some Whitesnake songs from the late 70's i really like and No they werent a hair band back then at all. Blindman is my favorite song i just saw Deep Purple a year ago Feb in Victoria they were fantastic. I was waiting for Child In Time but i wonder if Ian cant get the voice up there like he used to (totally understandable). You should check out the first Warhorse album (vocals are a acquired taste) they were heavy like purple used a hammond b3 and of course Nicky Simper on bass. Captain Beyond were more psych rock and good as well. Jon Lord released a live Blues Rock album about two years ago with ex Keef Hartley Band singer Miller Anderson have you heard that????. Zeppelin and other bands get crammed down our throats leading us to think they are gods gift to music what bullshit. They are two types of music fans out there the generic casuall fan who listens to the radio and owns a few cd's. Then there is the other type like me and from the sounds of it you who plays out all the mainstream stuff and then starts to search and dig to listen to everything that came out from that era and bands from other countries. Germany had some excellent bands in the Classic Rock era so did Japan
ReplyDeleteZeppelin are the Nirvana of the 70s. And they haven't done all that much, collectively, since Bonham died. The studio albums were not only jammed to the tits with plagiarized lyrics and guitar riffs, but they were rather abysmal live. While I wasn't personally in attendance at a Zeppelin show, tripping balls on a 10-strip, I've seen enough footage to make an educated guess. According to all the bootlegs I've listened to and all the videos I've seen of them live, it was always ridiculous how sloppy, disjointed, and bland they sounded live. It's like they were all too high on heroin to play a decent setlist. It's not like heroin stopped Jerry Garcia from raging live. (Zeppelin kind of remind me of a sloppy Aerosmith attempting to jam out like the Grateful Dead, but being to high on heroin to even come close.)
DeleteI'll have to check out Captain Beyond. I've been listening to Deep Purple for the past few days, new album drops next month. I was a big fan of Purpendicular, Bananas, and Rapture of the Deep, so I have high hopes they'll deliver once again.
You must be out of your damn mind to suggest that Nirvana is shittier than Led Zeppelin... I honestly do not know how to react to this. Led Zeppelin is simply a safe little Classic Rock band with very little noticeable experimentation (maybe for their time they were inventive/novel/creative, but that was the past. They are pretty generic today). Nirvana, on the other hand, was extremely inventive and created sounds which were and still are very novel and untouchable. Have you even listened to Bleach and/or forgotten Nirvana tracks which are not included in any of their albums? I would suggest you check out "Curmudgeon", "Pen Cap Chew", "Oh The Guilt", and "Blandest". Also, OLD AFI (Very Proud of Ya, Answer That and Stay Fashionable) is fucking amazing as well and I personally believe OLD AFI to be way better than any dusty LZ track. OLD AFI is fucking raw and truly punk-rock. Finally, you listed the White Stripes as being shittier than LZ... Need I even attempt to provide a demonstration for this erroneous gesture?
ReplyDeleteLet the adults talk about Deep Purple, Ronald. AFI, Nirvana and White Stripes might as well be the sound of an anus belching semen bubbles when compared to Deep Purple.
DeleteBut seriously, I definitely equate Nirvana to the Led Zeppelin of the 90's, in that both bands had ENORMOUS influence on many acts that followed; they both helped ruin music in their own specific ways. Led Zeppelin opened the floodgates for plagiarism, sloppiness...largely due to their extravagant indulgence in heroin....and Nirvana opened the floodgates for even sloppier playing and even more heroin. Nickelback, Puddle of Mudd, Hinder, Seether...they're all basically grunge bands that record in million dollar recording studios. 99% of grunge is fucking horrible, and Nirvana has to have one of the blandest, most grating sounds I've ever heard. Dave Grohls best work is easily with Tenacious D, who are miles ahead of your AFI, White Stripes, and Nirvana. See AFI, Nirvana and the White Stripes all lack a particular cinematic charm, a certain theatrical charisma, because their genres intentionally disregard these qualities.
That is, after all, what metal bands, progressive rock bands, and even most classic rock acts were all about....theatrics, cinematic soundscapes, essentially taking the listener on a journey. I've noticed a big reason I can't tolerate grunge is because how it simultaneously strips both the lyrics and music of any charisma or theatrics. Grunge is like the doldrums of art - progressive rock is like lucid dreaming.
Grunge....I could just never get into it. It's so bland and lifeless. If you've heard one Alice in Chains song, you've heard them all. Now I can somewhat see the appeal of Grunge, and I liken it to musical heroin. Not my thing, never will be. It's far too underwhelming in its execution, composition, and lyrics to ever catch my interest. Prog Rock, Metal, and Classic Rock on the other hand...these genres are all more like Musical Cocaine. Wild, unpredictable, loose-canon, and over-the-top. Very much prefer my music to be of the cheesy cocaine category than of the corny heroin category, but to each their own.
I'm not going to completely attack this post mainly because: A. Everyone's entitles to their opinion & B. This article/post/whatever issue.
ReplyDeleteIn the article/post/whatever's defense, I understand why Led Zeppelin can be hate-worthy for some people. They are played a lot and many Zeppelin hardcore fans overstate the band members. They are definitely played often on the radio, but that's also because-whether you like it or not-they DID definitely take over the 70s in America and England.
Now, on the offensive (slightly). I happen to be a Led Zeppelin fan. Not, mind you, a fanboy/fangirl who drools over every aspect of the band. Just a fan of their music. I also enjoy Pink Floyd, The Who, The Beatles and other classic rock bands. Zeppelin is my favorite band, but I wouldn't say they are the best. But to denote Plant's vocals and Page's guitar playing as mediocre? That's a bit much, no? Plant's vocals were intentionally strained to match the bluesy element of the music. This inflection, as well as his incredible range, defined him as a legendary and influential singer. Maybe not the best, but you can't say he was awful. Page's guitar work was intentionally chaotic as well. But it was always orchestrated masterfully and decisively. As for the plagiarism claims, those blues elements they "stole" were actually common folk tunes which they DID credit people for on the fucking album. If you ever owned a Zeppelin album (doubtful), you would see that.
Lastly, the list of bands you stated as better than Zeppelin was laughable at best. I saw 4-5 bands that were probably comparable and definitely very good, but the rest were absolute trash. Your beloved Deep Purple? Yeah.... if you like that, Zeppelin probably isn't for you anyways, haha.
"I understand why Led Zeppelin can be hate-worthy for some people. They are played a lot and many Zeppelin hardcore fans overstate the band members. They are definitely played often on the radio, but that's also because-whether you like it or not-they DID definitely take over the 70s in America and England."
DeleteI state blatantly in the article I realize they are one of the biggest bands of all-time. No need to restate the obvious - they are on the level of the Beatles and Elvis. No doubt about it. And while this annoys me to no end, I'm not trying to ignore their fame. I'm just trying to debunk the people who claim they're anything more than a garage band who were in the right place at the right time. People suggesting they are "The greatest band of all-time" need an ear inspection, because as I said in this article...compared to their peers, Led Zeppelin sound like fucking Nickelback.
"But to denote Plant's vocals and Page's guitar playing as mediocre? That's a bit much, no?"
No, it isn't a bit much. Both Plant and Page were extremely mediocre. Compare either persons singing / playing to more competent singers / players in their field, and by comparison, they sound like fucking amateurs. There is NOTHING SPECIAL about Robert Plants voice or Jimmy Pages guitar playing. They were the two most underwhelming parts of the band.
"Plant's vocals were intentionally strained to match the bluesy element of the music. This inflection, as well as his incredible range, defined him as a legendary and influential singer. Maybe not the best, but you can't say he was awful."
I CAN say he is awful, and I will. Robert Plant is fucking awful. I'd also say he was terrible, shitty, whiny, and pranced about stage like a fucking fairy. He sounded like a teenaged prom girl getting eaten out for the first time after prom with his exaggerated moans and squeals. He sounded like a fucking jackass, if you ask me. "OH BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY!" Nothing is more grating on my ears than Robert Plants awful, terrible, shitty, overrated moans he tried to pass off as singing. Fucking terrible vocalist, through and through, and one of the biggest clowns in classic rock.
"Page's guitar work was intentionally chaotic as well. But it was always orchestrated masterfully and decisively."
Pages playing is terribly sloppy and disjointed. He has his moments, but it always sounds like he's either playing with a broken hand, or that he's just attempting licks and leads far beyond his capability. 'Chaotic' is one thing, but 'consistently sloppy' is another thing entirely. Even the guitar riffs of Page on studio albums sound off-time, like they have no start or end. Zeppelin has this weird thing about them, where they play the same thing over and over and over and over again for 20 minutes without actually going ANYWHERE. The song has no narrative - it just drones on and on without changing at all. And somehow, Page managed to take these simplistic 2 bar riffs and make them sound so horribly sloppy, contrived, and disjointed. The band just SOUNDS counterfeit, which is even funnier when considering the fact they stole half their fucking music, because it IS counterfeit.
"As for the plagiarism claims, those blues elements they "stole" were actually common folk tunes which they DID credit people for on the fucking album. If you ever owned a Zeppelin album (doubtful), you would see that."
DeleteYea, they DID credit people on the album....after being sued numerous times for it. A judge made them do that, they didn't do it out of the goodness of their heart. A 10 second Google search I just conducted provided me with a list of counterfeit Zeppelin songs, and who they stole them from.
"Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
"Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
"Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
"Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
"Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
"Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
"How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
"In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
"The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
"Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
"Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
"Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
"Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
"White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
"Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."
The most disgusting aspect is how they'd not only take credit for writing TRADITIONAL SONGS that had been around 100s of years, but they'd also take ONE PERSONS MUSIC and ANOTHER PERSONS LYRICS and throw them together and take credit for both stolen aspects of the song. Led Zeppelin were hacks, thieves, and overrated on a level no other band has ever reached. Not only that, but they were the biggest prudes about letting other people use their music. LZ were so up their own asses, they didn't allow the music THEY STOLE FROM OTHER PEOPLE to be used in any capacity. Fucking self-serving cock-smokers. There is nothing worse in the music industry than over-confident thefts. And Zeppelin are the biggest thefts, and over-confident to a degree very few other bands reach. In conclusion, Led Zeppelin are one of the worst fucking bands of all-time.
"Lastly, the list of bands you stated as better than Zeppelin was laughable at best. I saw 4-5 bands that were probably comparable and definitely very good, but the rest were absolute trash. Your beloved Deep Purple? Yeah.... if you like that, Zeppelin probably isn't for you anyways, haha."
DeleteJon Lord of Deep Purple had more talent than every member of Zeppelin combined. Zeppelin don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Deep Purple. I am doing a disservice to music even mentioning them in the same paragraph. Deep Purple on a bad night were light years of Zeppelin on their best night because DEEP PURPLE WERE COMPETENT MUSICIANS AND COMPOSERS. Literally EVERY aspect of Deep Purple is more polished, better executed, more thought-out, and more virtuosic than Led Zeppelin could ever hope to be. That is why Deep Purple members went on to have rich, fulfilling careers after they left Deep Purple. What did Zeppelin members do after leaving Zeppelin? Pretty much nothing. Meanwhile, Deep Purple has an extensive family tree that extends beyond their time in the band and proves they actually had staying power.
The only thing I give credit to Led Zeppelin for is tricking so many people into believing they're even worthy of listening to. As far as I'm concerned, they are one of the worst bands of all-time and deserve every single insult thrown at them. Compared to GOOD MUSICIANS, Zeppelin sound like fucking Nickelback. Such mediocre, overblown hacks, didn't know what the fuck they were doing on a stage (likely because they injected heroin betwixt their testicles before performing) and getting over-credited by a bunch of idiot music fans who just blindly believe all the unnecessary hype.
LED ZEPPELIN FUCKING SUCK.
I hate Led Zeppelin. If I want to listen to rock 'n roll, I'll listen to Jerry Lee Lewis performing live at Hamburg's Star Club, or a Chuck Berry album, or something like "Beat on the Brat" by the Ramones. Zep's music is mostly too slow, just loud, and the guitar sound is all wrong for my tastes. I confess that most of the hippy, new age music of the late sixties and early seventies leaves me cold, and I like my rock 'n roll played fast, and not overproduced. DEVO or the first B-52s album sound better than Led Zeppelin. I do like Dread Zeppelin however.
ReplyDeleteCall me an elitist, but I'd rather crank up Johnny Burnette & the Rock 'n Roll Trio ANYDAY over "classic rock" like Led Zeppelin.
I prefer music that sounds both artistically expressive AND musically dynamic. Led Zeppelin sound like sloppy, disjointed jam sessions by band members too drunk or doped out to remember how to properly play their instruments. Plant is awful at singing, too.
Delete"Classic Rock" is such a subjective term, though. I mean, the Who sounds nothing like Jethro Tull, who sound nothing like Deep Purple, who don't sound anything like Kansas, who...well, you get the picture. It's such a diverse genre it's hard to write off entirely. But to hone in on one artist that I particularly loath, it would obviously be Led Zeppelin. They get far too much credit they don't deserve.
Akon is better than any other rock bullshit in the past be it Led Zep or Deep Purcocks.
ReplyDeleteC'mon, that's some horrible trolling. Some faggot R&B singer with 4 simplistic, over-produced, cookie-cutter albums doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as ANY of the artists mentioned in this article.
DeleteGTFO, and brush up on your trolling skills, you amateur.
LOL your music sucks!!!...go slap yourself and GO LISTEN TO GOOD MUSIC LIKE:
ReplyDeleteGreen Day
Linkin Park
Marilyn Manson
Metallica
Black Veil Brides
this guys are better that Deep Purcock and Led Zep BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKED UP SHIT!!!
P.S GO LISTEN TO GREEN DAY MORE AND GET A LIFE
Sound advice for the deaf and tasteless
Deleteyeah thats because your one of those people who say that "when its famous,has terrible clothing and has is always played on the radio then it sucks"..and that is why you are stupid...go listen to more good music..DEEP PURCOCK FAGGOT
ReplyDeleteAre you really trying to suggest I'm stupid after typing out "DEEP PURCOCK FAGGOT"? Fucking retard.
DeleteI totally agree. I've never understood why they became so succesful. I never bought a Zepp record in the 70's. They are very good musicians, but their music stink.
ReplyDeleteOn youtube I recently saw 2 clips with Keith Richards and Pete Townsend. They didn't like zepp very much, said the name was very apt. Filled with lead their music never took off.
You sir deserve a fucking medal or wathever. It's about fucking time someone came out and said all this. Led Zep is so fucking overrated I can't find an appropriated adjective for it, relly. They're mediocre. I can't stand listening to one entire Zep album. In fact, i've never managed to do so, no matter how hard I've tried. Plant is just annoying. Paice>Boham. Jones was the best in the band, a really great bassist. Page was so sloppy it's just an offense to most guitar players that he is considered even one of the best. He was complete shit live. Fucking stole so many songs. He has maybe one or two good solos. It's revolting how Ritchie Blackmore gets much less praise than him, as Deep Purple gets much less praise than Zeppelin. Blackmore is easily in my top 3. He was doing sweeping licks in 1969. He schooled an etire generation of shredders. He can play ridiculously fast and he also has that deep blues feeling vibe. He's one of the reasons I play the guitar. Jon Lord (RIP) is the reason I would play the keyboard if I had the time or pacience to learn it. Made in Japan is without a question the best live album of the 70s.
ReplyDeleteDeep Purple and Sabbath were so much better than Zep. Like you mentioned, they actually had songs with more than 2 riffs in them. Zeppelin is repetitive like a broken record. Iommi shits on Page anyday both as a performer and composer (specially as a composer), even with his fucked up fingers. Don't even get me started on Jethro Tull.
Fuck, I never though I would find someone who though this way about Led Zeppelin.
You've made my day. Best thing I've read in the internet for a long time.